1. With Academy ONLY legal in vintage though, why would one expect the price to continue upwards? The format has die hard fans but it isn’t growing. There is also a lot of discussion on a potential banning for workshop which would eliminate most of the decks playing this card…Also all artifact decks have been referred to as MUD decks LOOOONG before Mono Blue Devotion existed.

  2. MUD is one of those things from the history of the game, nobody knowledgeable on that would ever think it refers to mono-blue devotion. Solidarity, The Rock (and his Minions, as it was originally) and The Deck have similar histories, Full English Breakfast and Fruity Pebbles are even more weirdly named, yet they were commonly seen deck names for a while.

    I agree that there can’t be much interest in a card only legal in Vintage. Your reasoning would be sound if only the card could be played anywhere. If it could be though it would’ve gone much higher long ago.

    What is an R1 card?

  3. That’s why I said that this is pretty much arbitrary, gents 😛 Speculating is all about hits and misses, anyway. I am a gambler by nature, and I don’t play my cards like they are always aces and kings; you also have to play your ten deuce like they are of the same kin. But your statements are all valid, and thank you for them!

    • The only arbitrary you mentioned was regarding the reserved list. We’re just saying this will very likely be one of the misses. I can’t imagine you would not prefer to avoid misses.

      In Magic finance there are many more opportunities than in a poker game. The question should not be whether you play a ten deuce, the question is on which of many hands you’ll play. The question for any card speculation, including on Tolarian Academy, should be whether there are alternatives that are more likely to pay out that are also available to you right now. If you figure there’s an X% chance Academy pays off n dollars and an X+Y% chance a different card also pays n dollars at similar buy in cost, you should be investing in the different card. Of course you could be figuring that the chance that Academy pays off is very high, but David and I both disagree with that. Do you reckon there is a very high chance of it paying off significantly?

      If you’d ask me I’d reckon that the chance of Academy paying off significantly in the last month of this year is in the 1-2% range, and it paying off significantly some time next year is in the 10-15% range. I’ve been far more confident in other cards, so other than for collecting purposes I am staying clear of Academy.

  4. If not Vintage, then how about the bump in interest from collectors when we return to Dominaria? Hell, we’ve already seen it in the background of one of the spoiled arts! I understand it’s banned pretty much everywhere, but I always thought Academy was undervalued realtive to the other cards in Saga, and especially now compared to all the literally unplayable RL garbage that’s spiked (and fallen) since summer. I like the potential here from a collector’s pov

    • Name 1 comparable card that is also banned everywhere but Vintage that commands a higher price and thereby shows that Academy could be undervalued.

  5. How bout 9 of them? I know it sounds insane to have Academy in the same conversation as the power 9, but this card is certainly in the running for the most powerful card *of all time*. I get that it’s 5 years younger and the supply’s much higher, but this card has the pedigree to be a collector’s item at some point in the not too distant future. I’ll be picking up a few more just in case,

    • That’s actually 0 of them, exactly because of age and supply. It’s not a question of card power, I’m happy to agree it’s in the top for Urza block power level. The point though is that there is almost no reason to play them. Even Yawgmoth’s Will, its most likely contender for the top position, is allowed in more formats and doesn’t cost significantly more (I realize it IS worth more, but not enough to make it interesting to buy Academies, have them shipped, sell and ship them out again, and make a significant profit in the process). Yawgmoth’s Will being allowed in Commander is a huge boon for it and even then it’s only worth about 25% more.

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