Comments on: NEW M10 DUAL LANDS! Glacial Fortress! https://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:21:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: routlaw https://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-877 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:21:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-877 I think these are going to have the Elspeth Effect-obviously good cards that will certainly find a home in standard but don't really have one yet, and will receive speculation as such. These duals are very good in two color decks and three color decks where there is a central color and splashes for the other color (say, mostly red with a green and black splash). You only need to play about 10-11 basics to make these things great, even for aggro decks.They obviously have tremendous synergy in Extended and will be must-haves there. Not so much Legacy/Vintage though, where fetches and original dual lands combined with all of the manlands and wastelands kinda crowd out these despite the obvious syngergy.They won't see immediate standard play except in some red/black deck win variants (hi2u ball lightning!) and maybe something like U/W Reveillark. I just don't that lack of play is going to affect the price too much.

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By: Saemar https://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-878 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:49:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-878 I don't play Standard at all, I nigh purely play legacy-esque formats in which I have access to very good duals with the basic land types. In those formats, these are very good. However, in value terms, they won't be particularly strong due to their weakness in Type 2. -Saemar

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By: KBR https://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-879 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:36:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-879 Wow, nit successfully picked. That was a freudian slip by me: I -meant- coastal tower! Having the basic land type is sufficiently important. Fixed, thanks 🙂

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By: Gifts Ungiven https://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-880 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:33:37 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-880 Nitpick – Boreal Shelf powers my Skreds and can be searched for with Into the North. Fortress is, however, strictly better than Coastal Tower.

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By: Kristi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-881 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:15:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/2009/06/new-m10-dual-lands-glacial-fortress/#comment-881 I'm a casual player who uses a lot of basics due to finances, and I like the new duals a lot. I'm not sure how tournament players will react, but they should be a huge hit with the casual crowd.

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