Comments on: Dream Cache – How Much Do Magic Cards Weigh? https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:15:03 +0000 hourly 1 By: Какой Шрифт Использует MTG? - Олдскульные геймеры https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-2130499 Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:15:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-2130499 […] Запрос на удаление Посмотреть полный ответ на quietspeculation.com […]

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By: Milagros https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-1968353 Fri, 03 Aug 2018 10:25:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-1968353 The essential notion is the fact that you generally perform at limits that you can have the right
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By: Antonio Edmonson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-1866190 Sun, 23 Apr 2017 03:20:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-1866190 Hello, Nice website. I am looking forward to see a lot more of your articles.

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By: vince beers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-1563482 Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:01:45 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-1563482 In reply to partycity.

flat rate boxes come with $50 insurance by default. I only pay for additional insurance if the value of what I’m shipping is $100+

In dozens and dozens of shipments I’ve only had one damaged/destroyed in postal delivery, it was a stack of cards I’d paid maybe $16 for and was reselling for $30. By the time the post office paid it off they gave me $40 which included the refund for postage

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By: heartofdestany https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-1092933 Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:49:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-1092933 In reply to Jason Barnett.

Your cards can be thicker or thinner and weigh differently depending on how played they are and the humidity they are kept in. It is best to double sleeve as soon as they are pulled from packaging and keep them that way, especially if they are foil as this will greatly help against coiling.

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By: Raphael https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-118487 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:19:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-118487 Thanks for this helpful article!

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By: Douglas Linn https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3687 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:00:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3687 Ben,

Some stores did that when Urza's Legacy came out – they would weigh individual packs and see which ones had foils. This was when they were much rarer in distribution than they are now. You open the pack with the foil and sell the single individually. Other stores would use heat lamps to make the foils in packs bend, then figure out which packs had now-curved foils in them and crack them too.

Luckily, with foils being more common, this is not a cost-effective measure anymore.

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By: Ben Julian https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3686 Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:36:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3686 This is a nice article, very useful information. It's kind of interesting that because foils DO weigh more than regular cards, you could actually figure out what packs do and do not have foils before you even open them. I don't know how you would do this in a non-sketchy way though – either you go to a store with a scale and weigh packs and look ridiculously suspicious, or you can buy a box and sell the packs that don't contain foils as part of a "secretly makeshift" booster box, which ensures you at least get one gold foil. I wouldn't suggest doing either, but if there was some other way that would be less sketchy, I think this is an awesome plan.

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By: Kelly https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3685 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:57:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3685 foils seem to be about 1.911 g each. Just had to do that to ship some bulk foils.

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By: Earnest Zagacki https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3684 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:21:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3684 Doubts are next to nothing more than a state of mind

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By: shazam https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3683 Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:33:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3683 Great comment Cardfather! I have recently opened my auctions to Worldwide to tap into those markets and your info was really helpful/reassuring.

PS. My first shipment to Sweden was no hassle and already got the feedback 🙂 Great tip on the Trading Cards, I never would have known that.

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By: the_cardfather https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3682 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:07:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3682 Fun little article. I would have never thought about using a dollar bill. (The C-note is a nice touch) 😉

Having been playing the shipping game for 13 years there is a lot of factors that go into shipping cards. I'll be happy to share a few.

1) As mentioned in the article, flat rate boxes are your friend. Most of the time you won't want to ship more than 500 cards (small flat rate) because you aren't going to get more than $11 (the cost of shipping) for a box of mixed commons or uncommons. If you are bulking out a collection like this on eBay use the medium boxes and sell them in lots of 3500 or whatever you can comfortably fit in the medium box. Try to get enough value in the box to get bids up, otherwise people will just calculate thier bulk price and subtract the shipping leaving you a couple bucks for your trouble.

If you can get them get the 13x11x3 medium flat rate boxes instead. It will hold 3 stacks of MTG cards side by side and you can even squeeze in a pair of 1k count white card boxes if you want to keep them organized inside. I've started wrapping my cards in manageable stacks of celophane. If you are doing a small shipment or a one time deal the stuff you can buy in the grocery store is fine, otherwise they sell rolls of it in office depot for a reasonable price. This keeps the cards from sliding around and getting folded inside the box.

The question about when is it not beneficial to ship first class anymore is about 12 ounces. You can use a large bubble mailer for this type of package but make sure the cards are secure inside. Keep in mind that you get free delivery confirmation on priority mail using paypal, but you have to pay for it if you don't buy online. (0.80).

2) Delivery Confirmation/Tracking is more important than insurance. As Doug said it's hard to get the P.O. to pay a claim because you have to prove worth. I'll insure stuff I can prove worth on easily and usually set the bar at boxes worth about $100. Delivery Confirmation is cheeper and still keeps the theives honest. I generally mark my packages as "Trading Cards" which also keeps you free of a host of customs implications if you put "Magic Cards". Nearly every customs dept in Eastern Europe that I've dealt with for example will return "Magic Cards" since Tarot style cards are banned for import there.

3) International Shipping is more of a hastle than it should be. IMO the U.S. is way behind when it comes to reliable international shipping options. I've heard it costs something like $4 to register a package in Asia, but it costs $14 or so here in the U.S. For this reason U.S. sellers/traders either a.)don't ship internationally, b.)require expensive registered mail which makes it unafordable to international customers, or c.) they just overcharge for shipping and assume some of the risk that way.

Considering upwards of 50% of my cards go out of the country this is business I don't want to loose. I've used all three in the past depending on the venue and my stomach for risk.

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By: Douglas Linn https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3681 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:26:07 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3681 Some things about insurance:

1. It is cheap.

2. The post office does not know what a magic card is. I have anecdotally heard that the PO is very hard to get to actually make good on an insurance claim. They will try to reimburse you for the cost of a new pack of magic cards. If they ask what's inside, I usually say baseball cards.

3. If you are selling to dealers, insure. I knew of one dealer who is no longer in business that would say that the PO "lost" boxes that he did get that didn't have insurance. He would then resell the cards at no cost to him. I think the $2 is a good way to keep small-timers honest.

Foils weigh slightly more, but I lack 1000 foils to weigh : ) If in doubt, remove them beforehand and weigh!

Older cards and newer cards weigh basically the same. Since most collections are mixed up anyway, it would be of less use to find out how much the weight difference is.

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By: lorddax https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3680 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:04:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3680 In reply to partycity.

The thing about insurance is whenever you are paying for it you usually won't need it but it will be that one time that you don't have it that you will wish to hell you did. If you are seriously getting into a shipping dependent oppurtunity, you might want to see what your acceptable loss threshold. This is where you set the bar for your venture for where the cost of insurance outweighs the potential loss of product. Running a business without insurance is like gambling, and in gambling, you never gamble with what you can't afford to lose.

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By: Jason Barnett https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3678 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:36:51 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3678 In my ignorance I wonder: do older cards weigh a different amount than newer cards? I mean it might be "no" or it might be part of the reason Kelly came up with a different weight for 1000 cards. A good test would be 1000 Zendikar cards (you know you have them!) vs. 1000 cards from some older set you have lying around.

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By: speks https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3679 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 08:13:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3679 thanks, very useful info!
i especially liked the last bit about Jace worth his weight in gold, good suff!

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By: partycity https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3677 Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:51:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3677 Thanks for the article! I'm just getting into the buylist game and I've been nervous that I had been wasting money on postage. I was relieved to know that my ~500 cards in the small flat rate box was the way to go.

Do you have any idea how small a shipment would have to be to warrant traditional postage?

I'm curious what everyone here does for insurance. Do you fully insure? If it's under a certain value do you skip it?

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By: MTGColorPie https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/dream-cache-magic-card-measurements/#comment-3676 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:45:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=1908#comment-3676 I love how you're using a Mox Peal and a Franklin in your pics. Easy there Cash Money.

I believe that foils both weigh heavier and are a little thinker than regular cards. Would love to see those numbers as well. In all, very good resource, thanks for taking the time to write this up.

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