Comments on: Trading Around https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:53:31 +0000 hourly 1 By: thehordling https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3806 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:20:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3806 I actually record the presale prices on Ebay and SCG on a spreadsheet for every set. On Sept 22nd Molten Tail Masticores were selling for $15 on average on Ebay and for $20 on SCG. I'm thinking the Masticore might actually still be undervalued considering it kills plainswalkers without attacking.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3805 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:58:02 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3805 @thehordling That's my personal line as well. This is why I always let my partners price cards before I give them my price. Lying about it is wrong, period.

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By: Mr.C https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3804 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:24:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3804 I picked up a couple of masticores @ 8. Its not worth 15-20, you gotta be kidding. Up to the day of the pre-release, they were pre-selling on ebay for 8-10.

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By: thehordling https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3803 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:58:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3803 Good point, yes I should have converted Noah's side of the deal to Ebay prices too. Now the trade looks much better 🙂

On a seperate note, I watched a well informed guy at my shop last weekend tell someone their Molten Tail Masticore was worth $8.00. Made me so mad; that is stealing. If the owner of the Masticore said "I value this at $8", that's one thing, but lying to someone about the value of their cards is stealing. That's where I draw the line. If you tell them "I value it at $8, but it's worth $15 – $20", then they at least know and can choose, but straight up lying to them and telling them it's worth $8 is stealing.

Do readers agree?

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By: alltappedout https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3802 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:21:15 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3802 Still kinda wondering why people would be willing to pay for a site that features trades. I mean I would probably pay a sub. For blacklotusproject.com before this. I really think some strategy writing along w/ financial features is the way to go and losing medina was the worst possible thing that could have happened to this site scg knew u guys would blow up w/ him oh well sucks right

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By: Noah Whinston https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3801 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:53:22 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3801 In reply to thehordling.

I second ChuckP's comment. you have to convert my half of the trade to ebay values too.

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By: Chuckp https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3800 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:34:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3800 @thehordling Before you say that the deal wasn't in his favor shouldn't you convert the other half of the trade to ebay prices. Comparing apples to oranges and such.

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By: thehordling https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3799 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:12:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3799 I hate to break it to you, but that last deal for you wasn't anywhere near in your favor as you reported. Here's the real prices you can buy these cards at on Ebay whenever you want, for NM copies.

2 Time Shifted Lord of Atlantis (2×4=8) 8.00
1 Power Artifact (25) 11.00
1 Force of Will (50) 40.00
3 Mint Lim Dul’s Vault (3×8=24) 10.50
5 Spell Snare (5×4=20) 17.50
1 MP Lim Dul’s Vault (6) 6.00
2 Elvish Spirit Guide (2×5=10) 10.00
1 Antiquities Hurkyl’s Recall (12) 12.00
1 Revised Demonic Tutor (10) 8.00
1 Booster box Scars of Mirrodin* (90) 90.00

Actual value: $213

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By: Noah Whinston https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3798 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:45:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3798 In reply to the_cardfather.

I feel that with most players, even those who would describe themselves as trading-savvy, it will be difficult for them to do a 10 cards for 1 trade. that said, there is no harm in attempting to make that trade, and you may be able to increase your profit margin by offering a $10 with 3 $1 cards thrown in, rather than 1 $15 card

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By: the_cardfather https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/09/trading-around/#comment-3797 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:01:08 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=2250#comment-3797 I agree that trade isn't as bad for the store that it looks. If I couldn't move that stuff, I'd be glad you were taking it out of my display case. I'm not sure where I could get $10 for a Demonic Tutor for instance or $5 ea for Elvish Spirit Guide.

There used to be two stores in my area within a 30 min drive of each other. One was only Standard the other had a decent sized Vintage community. There was a guy who used to regularly go between the two shops and pick up staples in the other format for cheep and trade them away at the other shop.

Here's a question for you. When you're flipping through a binder and the only way the trade is going to happen is to get 3-4 cards for one is there a way you aproach this trade? Do you just tell them that you're going to have to trade down and try to get some value that way, or do you try to feel them out to see if they would trade 10 $2 cards for your one $15 card?

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