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By: Dan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-9059 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:39:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-9059 Hi Dylan, I know it's a matter of opinion in the P.A. community on whether Titans are useful/worth playing in the sideboard. I was just wondering if you've been playing your Pyromancer deck lately and if you've made any significant alterations to your list? And if you ever did come to find a preference in your sideboard vs all matchups of the Inferno titan or Frost titan? I'm very curious to know if you've found one to perform more consistently and convincingly earning it's slot in your board. Thanks for your time.

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By: john https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6901 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:15:51 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6901 In reply to Dylan Lerch.

yeah legacy legal pyro ascension just for fun

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By: Dylan Lerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6881 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:33:59 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6881 In reply to Trigunner.

I'm a big fan of extremely fluid sideboard strategies. A corollary to that is I don't follow rigid sideboarding rules. Being on the play or the draw or being up a game, even, or down can all have an effect. The amount of time left in the round can have an effect as well!

Though for an answer that's not completely useless, I've been leaving all four Pyromancer Ascensions in every time. Deprive, Into the Roil, Foresee, (sometimes) See Beyond, Burst Lightning, and Pyroclasm are typically options for the chopping block.

I wish I could be more help – hence why I focused on building the sideboard itself rather than what to do with it! 🙂 I would recommend Noah Whinston's Friday article "Sideboarding with Pyromancer Ascension" for a few matchup-specific suggestions.

Hope that helps! I'll be making it a point to respond to any comment left here to the best of my ability.

Dylan

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By: Dylan Lerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6879 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:24:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6879 In reply to James.

James,

My Gatherer search for "Counter target spell" completely omitted Mindbreak Trap. That was a total oversight on my part. Mindbreak Trap is an exceptional option to go over the top in a Counter war, and it's definitely something to consider to replace Spell Pierce and/or some number of (probably) Negate.

Thank for the correction – you're absolutely right!

Dylan

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By: Dylan Lerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6878 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:22:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6878 In reply to John.

Hi John,

Thanks! It's cooler than I can find words for to see readers from The Brewery follow me here 🙂 I fully intend to help QS (along with especially the Spike team) be everything The Brewery simply could not be by myself 🙂

When you say a Legacy legal version, do you mean of Pyromancer?

And speaking of Extended… the Brewfest has already begun! I'm excited to learn the ins-and-outs of that format as I have Standard.

Thanks again and please never shy away from leaving feedback of any kind!

Dylan

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By: James https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6876 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 14:02:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6876 Great Article. For completeness sake though your counterspell effects should also include and discuss MindBreak Trap. Unlike the other 4CC counter spells this one might actually have a spot against ramp decks to help against Summoning Trap.

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By: John https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6874 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:16:04 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6874 Great article I've been following your wrightings science u started the brewery. I just recently built pyro asencion and your articles have helped greatly especially the SB aspect. Keep up the hard work can't wait to see what you brew up for extended also would like to build a legacy legal version for fun any thoughts?

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By: Trigunner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6851 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 03:30:36 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6851 Hi again,

I am wondering wich cards you would normaly board out when bringing in creatures?

Do you board out all 4 Pyromancer Ascension or do you leave some in the main?

And would you consider an additional Negate over Spell Pierce? Both have their advantages, but typically Negate outclasses Spell Pierce, and playing 4 instead of 3 Negate makes activating Ascension easier.

And yes, Trigun rocks! Hope the movie becomes availble on DVD with english or german subs. (but german is unlikely, as they even stopped publishing the manga here. >:( )

Anyways, greetings and thanks for answering.

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By: Dylan Lerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6832 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:25:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6832 In reply to torerotutor.

torerotutor,

Fair point on the lands, but I find that in the Control matchups I want those lands so badly that getting to 6 on turn 6 is a given if the game is going to go well otherwise.

I just hate how the deck is almost completely cold to a resolved Titan (Into the Roil is a band-aid fix at best) without Frost Titan as an answer.

Dylan

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By: Dylan Lerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6824 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:01:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6824 In reply to DionesotesRex.

Hi DionesotesRex,

I think part of the value of Frost Titan though is that, with so few "big" threats you can go over-the-top with, Frost Titan answers any of the other big threats as well as attack for 6.

Sphinx of Jwar Isle and Wurmcoil Engine are great for being resilient threats, but what happens if you're staring down an enemy Titan or a Wurmcoil?

It can also play as mana denial, and in tandem Mana Leak, its pseudoshroud becomes a little more useful.

All that being said, I may be a bigger fan of Inferno Titan > Frost Titan here. I'm not too sure either way yet.

Dylan

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By: DionesotesRex https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6823 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:13:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6823 I heavily dislike Frost Titan in this deck. You would need to get a much stronger enters the battlefield trigger, a la Grave Titan, for it to be worth the slot. I prefer Jwar Jwar or Wurmcoil because even if they deal with Wurmcoil you're most likely getting something out of it. Losing a Frost Titan really sucks though.

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By: Dylan Lerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6814 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:21:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6814 In reply to Mark Conkle.

Hi Mark,

I don't think they're on the same topic at all!

One of the things you'll notice about Spike content, especially higher-level content, is that the topics can get very narrow. Noah's column this week has both a slightly different take on this deck (and sideboard) and focuses on matchup-specific sideboarding instructions.

My article however covers how to build the sideboard from the ground up. Both are important topics in my opinion. I was thrilled to see the topic of his article, and more than happy to run them his and mine alongside each other.

Thanks,

Dylan

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By: Mark Conkle https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6788 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:09:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6788 Just wondering why there are two articles on the same topic.

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By: torerotutor https://www.quietspeculation.com/2010/12/building-a-better-pyromancer-sideboard/#comment-6782 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 06:56:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=5770#comment-6782 I don't like the titans in the board of this deck. I've toyed around with frost titan, but I'd rather be scrying/shuffling away those lands later on, than trying to get to 6 just in case i rip my titan. Just my experience. I'm big on the snapper, they are suitable in so many situations.

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