Comments on: Judging Extended: PTQ Part 1

By: KyleKnudson

KyleKnudson — Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:11:52 +0000

This is an unfortunate side effect of this ruling yes. When something like this happens, you apply any unresolved state based actions ("Enchant green creature" on a black creature would fall off) but since Emrakul is a triggered effect, there is nothing actually wrong with it being in the graveyard as far as the game is concerned.

Judges don't take that kind of thing into account when giving a ruling. Consistency is more important that taking every situation into account.

There is a question on next week's article that has another situation like this, where the game ends up turning around because if a similar ruling.

By: @torerotutor

@torerotutor — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:43:31 +0000

so the emrakul could then be makeshift mannequined or puppeteer cliqued or risen from grave?? if either player had one of those cards in decklist, does that affect judges decision?

By: karamoff

karamoff — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:59:41 +0000

Answer (edited fix): He had a Doppelganger already in play, cast his own Finks and attacked with the Doppel-Finks, which got blocked.

My reading comprehension FTL.

By: karamoff

karamoff — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:52:04 +0000

In reply to @LukeSonnier. Pretty much this.

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:56:01 +0000

In reply to Adam Styborski. Very interested to know how the Doppelganger stayed as Finks!

By: Miles

Miles — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:23:40 +0000

A good read. Thanks for writing it.

By: Guest

Guest — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:56:38 +0000

In reply to Adam Styborski. How was the Doppelganger still a Kitchen Finks on his opponent's turn? The effect only lasts until end of turn.

By: @LukeSonnier

@LukeSonnier — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:05:22 +0000

I'd say that's a game loss to the Stybbs for failure to maintain proper article state!

By: Adam Styborski

Adam Styborski — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:46:30 +0000

That’s my editing mistake. The player cast his own Finks then his opponent attacked with a Finks of his own. Both persist, but the End result is correct. This will be fixed later today; my apologies for creating confusion (the one thing judge articles are meant to fight).

By: Guest

Guest — Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:23:17 +0000

Renegade doppelganger only creatures when a creature comes into play under your control, so it can't become a copy of the opponents finks…