Comments on: I Am Strictly Better Than You https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:37:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: @adamzak https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13082 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:37:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13082 In reply to @Dr_Jeebus.

There's no logical disconnect. Just a difference in writing style.

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By: @Dr_Jeebus https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13068 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:45:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13068 In reply to @adamzak.

Stric9 nailed this one. The Mind Spring point was to illustrate how cards that have similar functionality and that are normally used identically are frequently compared in a strict sense, but that it is incorrect to do so. The other comments were explaining why Mind Spring is functionally better, which is what leads most people to their incorrect conclusion that it is strictly better. It is also to point out that while Mind Spring is considered better, there are too many variables to compare them strictly.
If this still doesn't make sense to you, then I'm unfortunately out of ideas because I have no idea where the disconnect in logic is coming from which is making it hard to address.

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By: Stric9 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13064 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:43:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13064 In reply to @adamzak.

Jeebus is actually reinforcing his point that "strictly better" must be used within the appropriate context and with the appropriate definition. He is doing that by pointing out that while their functions are similar, they are not exactly the same. The entire purpose of that paragraph is to point out that people misuse the phrase "strictly better" when comparing cards of like function. Since people often use "strictly better" to compare cards that have similar, but not exactly the same, functions it makes perfect sense to address the issue.

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By: @adamzak https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13063 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:42:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13063 In reply to @Dr_Jeebus.

Let me add, I think the entirety of the article is bang on. I'm really glad you chose to succinctly clarify an issue that's been so misrepresented. However, the Mind Spring point juxtaposed with the precision of the rest of the piece, sticks out as discordant.

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By: @adamzak https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13062 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:29:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13062 In reply to @Dr_Jeebus.

I'm glad you put it that way. Another way to put it is that the discussion of first statement is in no way relevant to the topic of the article. It's a debatable which is "better", and tangential to the real point of the article. In an article describing a "science", a haphazard comparison that eschews your methodology is out of place.

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By: chasandres https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13059 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:48:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13059 Interesting discussion. I liked this one!

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By: @Dr_Jeebus https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13057 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:13:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13057 In reply to @adamzak.

How so? Card interactions are not taken into account in determining which is strictly better. They are taken into account in determining which is the regular kind of better. The truth of the second statement in absolutely no way is relevant to the discussion of the first statement.

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By: @adamzak https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/03/i-am-strictly-better-than-you/#comment-13056 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:11:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=11725#comment-13056 "Mind Spring is better because it can’t be redirected and you can cast it even if you have shroud."

"Simply put, card interactions are not taken into account. Cards are strictly better than each other in a vaccum."

While you didn't say Mind Spring was "strictly better", your analysis contradicts your methodology.

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