Comments on: A Stoneforge Mistake? Pyromancer Ascension in GP Dallas https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Sat, 23 Apr 2011 20:08:30 +0000 hourly 1 By: @dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14786 Sat, 23 Apr 2011 20:08:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14786 In reply to Tyler.

Hi Tyler,

I haven't tried it, though I'm not opposed to giving it a spin on MTGO for a few games to see what I think. 🙂 In theory though, I love what Jace Beleren does for the deck. I've got an article in the works extolling the virtues of the less expensive Jace. 🙂

I'll give it a try and get back to you. Thanks for reading, responding, and for the suggestion!

Dylan

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By: Tyler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14772 Sat, 23 Apr 2011 02:41:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14772 In reply to dtlerch.

Hey Dylan,

Just a quick inquiry, have you tried playing Nuerok Commando in lieu of Jace B. for card draw power? I know you feel that Jace is better than ever with the buffed up suite of burn to protect him from aggro, but I've heard alot of people having nothing but good things to say of the Commando and it's versatility in many match ups. Give her a shot I say. I'd love to hear your opinion if you did. Thanks.

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By: dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14279 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 05:02:14 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14279 In reply to Brandon Loeser.

Glad it's been working out well 🙂 Please don't be shy about posting here if you make any changes to the deck! I'd love to hear your experiences with it against the Tier 1 matchups especially.

Thanks for reading and responding!

Dylan

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By: Brandon Loeser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14278 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:53:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14278 Thanks for the list! i've been playing it on mws with some friends and it's crazy fun!

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By: dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14275 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:55:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14275 In reply to Ryan Bushard.

Hah, my bad! I credited you in the other article, don't know how I missed it here 🙂 Hell, I wouldn't have even made the drive if it wasn't for your Tweet saying you could get me the deck!

And yes, Valeri is quite awesome (at holding beer and many other things)

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By: @torerotutor https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14268 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:20:37 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14268 In reply to Michael.

I agree with dylan on this one. the more spells you cast with this deck, the more likely you are to win. In long games JaceB helps that cause, but in most matchups, even he hurts there. If it wasn't for JTMS, i dont think even JaceB would be playable in this deck

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By: Ryan Bushard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14262 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:03:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14262 Was a good time had a blast with you guys, btw thanks for leaving me out on that borrow cards list…kerk! j/k man I still cant believe she held her beer all night, next time Corbin you wont be so lucky! And on the European dude, I thought he was saying it was the worst burger ever, hence why he was giving it away…guess I misjudged that one hard lol. Anyway great deck writeup and good choice had a blast and cant wait to do it all again.

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By: dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14258 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:03:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14258 In reply to Michael.

Hi Michael,

Thanks!

I've never tested JTMS here, but in theory he should be much worse. Jace Beleren is already sketchy enough costing 1UU in a deck that really wants another U or 1U card draw/cantrip spell. However, coming down a turn earlier than JTMS makes a big difference. 🙂

I think it's worth testing out, but I would not be surprised if Jace B were better in most situations.

Dylan

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By: Michael https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14257 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:52:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14257 Nice article. I think I might sleeve the deck up and try it out but I have a couple questions. Would JTMS be better than beleren? Or did you run him just because he comes down a turn sooner so you would have the first jace out?

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By: dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14246 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:26:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14246 In reply to TOm.

Hi TOm,

Thanks for reading and responding! What's your Ascension deck been looking like? I'd love for there to be more discussion about the archetype.

Dylan

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By: dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14245 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:25:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14245 In reply to Corbin Hosler.

Hah, thanks Corbin! 😛 So excited for GP: Providence…

He also gave me a couple dice after the match. Jeff: If you read this, thanks for being awesome 🙂

Dylan

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14243 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 06:16:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14243 Good write up indeed, and Saturday was quite a bit of fun, even though I understood about two words European dude said. His fries were indeed delicious, though.
Also, obviously a great deck choice and Memoricide naming Ascension is delicious. I judge tournaments around here with Jeff Zandi occasionally, so I'll make sure to rub it in next time I see him.

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By: TOm https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14242 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:56:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14242 I've been playing Pyro ascension for a while and really like your list! I've beaten most versions of caw blade, but U/W is a 50/50 one. I also like your sideboard transformation. I'll have to try it out later! Nice article sir.

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By: dtlerch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14241 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:12:41 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14241 In reply to @torerotutor.

Thanks Chad 🙂

I was rather happy that all of my misplays were so tame, and the thing that hurt me the most was the differences between MTGO and real-life. 50 minutes goes by so quickly when you have to shuffle so often! All in all, that's pretty easy to fix for next time. 🙂

Great deck, and it would have made a better player Day 2 for sure.

Thanks again for the kind words. 🙂

Dylan

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By: @torerotutor https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/04/a-stoneforge-mistake-pyromancer-ascension-in-gp-dallas/#comment-14239 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:31:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=12192#comment-14239 DUDE! Great write up. I did want to come find you and punch you when reading about some of the punts, but this gives me some great insight on the deck. I look forward to hearing if you end up liking foresee, the main reason for me, is i want all my sorceries to cost 2 or 1, instants to spend on their turn as i please (ie draw/counter) . that game 1 stat is awesome! I'd stopped playing this deck a little so i'm not to burnt out for PTQ season, but i really want to try it with your Jace beleren advice, sounds like it was a stud.

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