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Investing in a Modernly Overextended format

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If you haven’t heard the news about the two new formats brought into the Magic community, you’re already behind the times. For reference, you can read the full descriptions here (for Overextended) and here (for Modern). With these formats coming down the pipes, I would be remiss if I didn’t look at how to profit on this.

Some background and a brief description of each. Overextended has been a rumored format for more than a year now, and after the changes to Extended and the subsequent failure of the format (Apparently no one but me likes to play it), changes appear needed. Patrick Chapin has attributed the failure of new Extended to the fact that it has no identity, whereas Standard is “the newest cards” and Legacy is “all the cards.” In contrast, current Extended is like a Recurring Nightmare, where all the decks you hated come back to torment you again.

Seeing the writing on the wall, Gavin Verhey decided to get the ball rolling on a solution. He created MTGoverextended.com, and is hosting Tuesday Night Overextended tournaments on MTGO, and is aiming for Worldwide Overextended Day on July 2.

Overextended starts with Invasion block and runs through the current set. There is a small banlist (notably Aether Vial, along with cards in the more broken combo decks) and sets never rotate out. This cuts out many Legacy staples such as Force of Will and Wasteland, not to mention dual lands, making the format both more accessible and vastly different than Legacy.

The Modern format takes it one step farther. Wizards created this (original) Mirrodin-onward format for the Community Cup, possibly looking to address the same issues Gavin did in regards to solving the current Extended’s format. While the format is a one-time event for now, it’s entirely possible it could become a paper constructed format.

What does this mean for us?

Let’s look at some of the cards from Invasion forward that would define the format. I’m going to try to hit on the cards that aren’t already completely saturated throughout Legacy, such as Tarmogoyf.

Shocklands

Watery Grave and friends, all of which command at least a $5 pricetag already, would go through the roof if this become a PTQ format. These are a great investment right now anyway due to the coming explosion of EDH (Commander) with the pre-cons launching this summer.

Hallowed Fountain is not Tundra, but it will do a close enough approximation if the format were to become real. One thing to keep in mind is if Wizards went this route and made Modern a format there would likely be a reprinting of the Shockland cycle somewhere not long down the line.

Dark Confidant

Bob would be pretty close to the nuts in this format, although in a world where your lands do 2 damage to you upon entering I can see him having matchups where he’s terrible.

Dark Depths

Sword of the Meek may be banned in both possible formats, but Dark Depths could still exist if it was allowed. It’s currently on the Modern banlist but not the Overextended banlist (which can be found here and here, respectively). It’s very likely Marit Lage could come out once again.

Thoughtseize

This is already a good card to pick up in trades as it rotates out of Extended, and it would be the premier discard spell and very important against the combo decks since Hymn to Tourach won’t be available.

Psychatog

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tog came back in an Overextended format, and since there’s no Swords to Plowshares there aren’t as many easy ways to exile him.

Gifts Ungiven

Gifts also seems like it would be pretty powerful in a slower format than Legacy.

Enduring Ideal

I wasn’t around when this was a deck, but like many combo decks that didn’t quite make the transition to Legacy, it could still be a player in an Overextended format.

Scapeshift

The Scapeshift list from last year’s Extended season, both the blue and aggro variants, would be viable again, but I promise there won’t be any Primeval Titans in sight.

Ghost Quarter

With people playing decks that are likely full of fetchlands, shocklands and possibly Dark Depths you can really punish players with Ghost Quarter, an uncommon that climbed to $3-4 last Extended season.

Living End

With Dredge banned out of existence in both possible formats, Living End or Life from the Loam decks could become the premier graveyard decks in the format. Since you can pick up Living End for next to nothing it would represent a pretty drastic increase in its price.

Maelstrom Pulse

The timing of the format’s release would mean a lot here, as Pulse will rebound with next year’s (current) Extended format when Jund is played again, but Pulse shows up from time to time in Legacy and would definitely have a home in a smaller format.

Murmuring Bosk & Doran, the Siege Tower

The price on this is tumbling after the end of Extended season, and it would receive a boost in the new format. The same goes for Doran.

Engineered Explosives

Control decks would heavily lean on Explosives since the Zoo-type decks would be so good in the format.

Zoo cards

Take your pick, but the most likely bets are Ignoble Hierarch, Goyf, Knight of the Reliquary, Bloodbraid Elf, and so forth.

Grove of the Burnwillows

I’m not positive the Grove/Punishing Fire combo would be good enough, but it would be close.

Cryptic Command

A card that would work a lot better in Modern, rather than in Overextended, but it’s powerful enough that it even showed up in the winning Legacy list from the last SCG Open, so I imagine it would find a home.

Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Obviously.

Elspeth, Knight Errant

Kibler seemed to do all right rocking Elspeth in Austin, though that was before the onset of Dark Depths/Sword. Elspeth would fit into a number of decks, making her a powerful option and easy target for profit.

Blood Moon

This was a solid option last Extended season, and I imagine it would be again, probably in the sideboard or maindeck of the one or two color aggro decks.

Kitchen Finks

This would make a sick pickup at the announcement of the format, since it’s been such a big role player in many decks, including last Extended season.

Path to Exile

We’ve seen Path hit $5, and this format could see it hitting $10 without much of a problem.

Stoneforge Mystic

With Jitte likely banned, Mystic loses some of its power, but I can’t see it not finding a home in a Mirrodin-onward format.

I’m going to stop there for now. I realize there are a number of things that would have to happen before any of us are heading to a PTQ with a Modern or Overextended deck in hand, but it’s not impossible to imagine either. If the Community Cup or Overextended prove that it’s a popular format I think we can expect Wizards to do something about current Extended.

If/When that happens, I wanted to give you a list to look to that says something more than “ZOMG BUY RAVNICA LANDS.” Let’s be honest, they’re all going to be bought up two minutes after the format’s announcement, long before anyone can write an article about what cards to buy.

You don’t stand to lose much (if any) money off these cards by buying in now, and if the format becomes a reality you’re going to look like a genius and rake in the benefits of being one. Here’s hoping.

Thanks,

Corbin Hosler

@Chosler88 on Twitter

5 thoughts on “Investing in a Modernly Overextended format

  1. You might want to check your prices on the Ravnica shock lands. I think you are vastly underestimating their price here. Even the lowest of the shocks are seven to nine dollars. Also, they have all been steadily climbing up in value over the last six months.

    The nice thing about this format is that all the cards you mentioned are good cards that players will trade for even if this format never exists to the risk is quite low.

    thanks.

  2. If Modern does come to paper, Shocklands will be reprinted. I could see them as the marquee cards in a core set. I've been speculating they get reprinted just before Zen rotates out of Standard. Is that M13? I can't see Modern being a fully accepted format before then, at least in paper. But on MTGO everything is up in the air.

    @Mike Lanigan I believe Corbin was talking about shockland prices on MTGO.

    @Corbin I do think that if either Modern or Overextended does get created, Modern will win, so I doubt Psychatog will come back to show his big teeth. I think a big deck that everyone forgot about is the crazy boros landfall deck that was popular right before Time Spiral block rotated. Played land d and flagstones of trokair.

    Also, not sure if everyone saw Aron Forsythe's post on Modern. It is NOT all cards in new frames, It is 8th/Mirrodin and on. So stuff like brainstorm, firebolt and fact or fiction that are printed in new frames from duel decks and theme decks are not playable in the format. I would have loved to see the new be the legalizing factor, seems much more interesting. Much more powerful though and that could be the reason.

  3. Thanks for the feedback guys.
    As far as the shocklands are concerned, I was actually referring to BlackLotusProject (Ebay) prices. Blood Crypt is just under $6 there, and it is the cheapest.
    @Rye I remember that Boros deck, and it was good. I considered putting Flagstones on here, but I'm not convinced that the deck is fast enough to handle all the combo. It's not like the deck was really Tier 1 last season anyway.

  4. Excellent article. I'm going to use this information this weekend at a local PTQ. As Mike stated most of these cards are already at least somewhat used so the risk factor seems relatively low.

    Out of curiosity what do you think will happen to the pricing on Sword of Fire/Ice and Sword of Light/Shadow if this format comes to fruition? Also, any thoughts on picking up elf combo peices? From what I remember of most older extended decks the deck was quite bonkers.

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