Comments on: Rafiq of the Platypus https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 24 May 2011 22:07:24 +0000 hourly 1 By: xxxbretweedxxx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16347 Tue, 24 May 2011 22:07:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16347 In reply to PlatypusJedi.

It's 1v1, just win instead. You should be killing not controlling. the control elements of a good 1v1 Rafiq deck are answers to things that stop you from attacking with Rafiq unimpeded.

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By: Alucard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16346 Tue, 24 May 2011 21:49:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16346 Many, the pod usually consists of 4-6 people with two being very good(husband and wife playing 10+ years with comprehensive understanding of the finer points of the rules and deck building) 2-3 are newer that haven't learned how to assess threats properly, cover the various needs of a deck(enchantment/artifact removal, recursion, graveyard hate, choosing cards like Doom Blade over Shriekmaw, etc) that allows their decks to have a greater threat density . What usually happens is the husband and wife have a plan and while the others squabble amongst themselves since they don't want to be targeted I have to convince them to look at the bigger picture and hope they catch on. This usually makes it difficult to deal with the couple(who luckily, are purely competitive and will not help each other) because I'm the principle threat to them until that happens :/

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By: @wrongwaygoback https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16326 Tue, 24 May 2011 06:24:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16326 Alucard, are you building for a 1v1 environment or a 1vMany environment?

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By: Alucard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16305 Mon, 23 May 2011 19:42:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16305 Ordinarily I don’t like auras but what about Shield of the Oversoul?

I’m working on a multiplayer Rafiq deck at the moment and saw some interesting additions but am still not sure on tempo and lasting power and would love to hear other people’s take on that angle

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By: PlatypusJedi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16226 Sat, 21 May 2011 20:01:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16226 Jitte is still there.

Trygon into Rafiq is a beating though. Plus repeatable destruction is important,

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By: @wrongwaygoback https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16201 Sat, 21 May 2011 05:19:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16201 My apologies Justin, you're right, Metamorph doesn't target. I'll just pack my high-horse away over here and hang my head. Totally a better card than clone.

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By: Justin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16163 Fri, 20 May 2011 18:50:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16163 In reply to @wrongwaygoback.

Read the text again, Metamorph doesn't target.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=3

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By: Sicarius https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16158 Fri, 20 May 2011 17:53:41 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16158 I could not help but notice the lack of Umezawa’s Jitte in this list. Given that Rafiq is usually a double-striker, the Jitte gets 4 counters per attack and that is just completely nuts in this deck.

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By: xxxbretweedxxx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16153 Fri, 20 May 2011 13:57:59 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16153 In reply to @wrongwaygoback.

Pridemage is a cheap tutorable enchantment/artifact removal spell that pumps Rafiq until a good target comes out. It's good for an early beater as a 3/3 for two that swings for 8 when Rafiq enters the equation. It's also an awesome recursion target for Sun Titan and Genesis. I like it better than Trygon Predator myself because your main goal should be to swing with Rafiq and TP requires you to swing with it.

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By: @wrongwaygoback https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16123 Fri, 20 May 2011 03:51:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16123 @justin & @jonathan I'm seeing the "Metamorph replaces clone" meme around a lot at the moment. The single best thing about clone is that it doesn't target. You can use it to kill opposing Generals with shroud or protection. Metamorph targets, so while it has more utility, it is not as efficient a General Killer.

@justin I'm happy to do more articles like these. I'll see if I can arrange some way of submitting decklists for review with Adam. I won't write about finance however, not my area of expertise by any means.

I like the idea of the Mythic Conscription Package, maybe by taking out two equipment and putting those guys in instead. Mother of Runes seems a good choice for a fast game. Quasali Pridemage doesn't do anything for me in this format, but some people like him. Gaddock Teeg would be a very interesting choice, especially if you sheered off some of the higher mana curve.

I'm really interested to see how the final decklist looks after you reword it Jedi.

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By: Justin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16102 Thu, 19 May 2011 19:57:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16102 I agree with Jonathan that Phyrexian Metamorph (replaces Clone for the mirror match) and Condemn should be included. I would also suggest Oblation as yet another tuck effect.

If you're going to run the Mystic package I would recommend the following changes:

– Thada Adel, Acquisitor (no telling how many artifacts are in the opponent's deck, plus it's anti-synergy with Brooding Saurian)
– Oath of Druids

+ Grafted Exoskeleton (Rafiq can kill in one hit without the aid of Finest Hour)
+ Stonehewer Giant (Redudancy and can surprise equip the Exoskeleton)

xxxbretweedxxx: I would add Unquestioned Authority and possibly Rancor to your Sovereigns of Lost Alara package.

What is the general consensus as to which is better: Mystic or Sovereigns package (obviously not room for both)?

Some other suggestions:

– Treetop Village (
I don't think the Manlands available to Rafiq are worth it except for Colonnade)
– Stirring Wildwood
– Treva's Ruins
– Seaside Citadel
– Jace Beleren

+ Yavimaya Hollow
+ Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
+ Tundra
+ Polluted Delta
+ Rhystic Study (people always forget to pay the extra 1)

Some other cards to consider, although I don't know where you'd fit them:

Sylvan Safekeeper, Mother of Runes (maybe in Knight of the Reliquary's spot?)
Oblivion Ring, Allay (if you need more removal)
Loxodon Gatekeeper, Aven Mindcensor, Gaddock Teeg, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV (if you want a more controllish build)
Cephalid Constable (this is the nuts, I would sub it in for Brooding Saurian in a playgroup that wasn't playing alot of steal effects)

On a final note, liked the article, and will be showing my friend for sure (who has a Rafiq deck of his own). Any chance this can turn into a regular series? Also, how about a finance article as it relates to EDH?

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By: Tyler Tyssedal https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16100 Thu, 19 May 2011 19:39:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16100 Definitely add the Sovereigns of The Lost Alara + Eldrazi Conscription package.

Perhaps even Diplomatic Immunity? Not nearly as good as Greaves, but could still prove to be the perfect followup to casting Rafiq.

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By: PlatypusJedi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16097 Thu, 19 May 2011 19:31:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16097 Mother of Runes is a great addition. But wanting to cut Selkie shows you haven't played with it. The card is amazing.

Changes are happening slowly but surely in the deck. We'll see what's effective.

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By: xxxbretweedxxx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16082 Thu, 19 May 2011 14:26:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16082 +Birds of Paradisse
Nature's Lore
Rampant Growth
Might Of Oaks
Sovereigns of The Lost Alara Package:
Eldrazi Conscription
Steel of the Godhead
Shield Of The Oversoul
Mana Crypt
Counterspell
Loxodon Warhammer
Tolaria West
Qasali Pridemage
Forest

-Oath
Survival
Expedition Map
Capsize
Last Word
Cryptic Command
Future Sight
Riftsweeper
Sword Of Light And Shadow
Dueling Grounds
Brooding Saurian
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Knight Of The Reliquary
Treetop Village

Maximize your early Rafiq in 1 vs 1 protect him a bit and win. I'd also like Azorius Guildmage back in there because it just wins games. Tapping down Rafiq's potential blockers is huge and stifling Maze of Ith effects is a big game.

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By: @wrongwaygoback https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16051 Thu, 19 May 2011 05:23:28 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16051 @JulesRobins

1. Why add Expedition Map but cut Tolaria West?

I can split the Expedition Map cost over two turns for colourless, and activate it at instant speed when the mana is free. Tolaria West, while the effect is generally uncounterable, requires two blue mana, which is not what you want when mana fixing (especially if searching for that blue).

2. Also, why does the Stoneforge package have to fit the number of card slots since they're intended to be tutored for rather than drawn?

It doesn't. In this deck, however, I like having that many options for equipment to tutor for. The runs so many small creatures that with Rafiq gone, it'll be equipment that saves the day in the end. The rules are flexible – an equipment could easily have been dropped to add Stonehewer Giant.

3. Finally, why doesn't this deck run Mana Crypt for ramp. If you're the aggressor, won't it usually be better than Sol Ring (not that you should cut that, just for comparison)?

Mana Crypt is both a wonder and a curse. Yes, it's conditionally better than Sol Ring, and a deck like this could do well to run both. But the deck doesn't have an awful lot of access to lifegain, so I decided to run with the Sol Ring instead. Maybe "both" is the best option.

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By: PlatypusJedi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16050 Thu, 19 May 2011 05:11:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16050 Interesting. Not what I expected but it looks very good.

First, please note that the list of possible inclusions are cards that I would play in my deck but I'm not sure of what to cut. The list is not comprehensive, it's simply what I could think of.

I found it interesting that you cut Polluted Delta. (if I added a Tundra would that change anything?)

In regards to Cold-Eyed Selkie, that card is a house. It has Islandwalk! And it into Rafiq draws 4 cards! Or it just sits there and pretends to be Phyrexian Arena without the life loss.

Would Inkmoth Nexus be an interesting inclusion as the colorless creature land?

I really like the idea of Phyrexian Metamorph. Seems good and is found by many tutors.

Elspeth isn't negotiable due to it being amazing with many cards (including Rafiq).

Is Tectonic Edge a reasonable inclusion?

Major props to Neale Talbot for writing this article and giving me ideas about it's direction!

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By: @JulesRobins https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16049 Thu, 19 May 2011 05:11:23 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16049 I'm a bit confused on three points: 1. Why add Expedition Map but cut Tolaria West? Other than for blue-fixing isn't the land usually better (since you aren't running Trinket Mage)? 2. Also, why does the Stoneforge package have to fit the number of card slots since they're intended to be tutored for rather than drawn? 3. Finally, why doesn't this deck run Mana Crypt for ramp. If you're the aggressor, won't it usually be better than Sol Ring (not that you should cut that, just for comparison)?

That aside, I enjoyed getting a look into your process for building competitive Commander decks even though it's not really my thing. If you do something like this again, I'd personally like to see a bit more explication of why you chose the specific categories you did. Obviously they support aggression, but why not have slots devoted to bounce etc.?

On cards from the given list to use, while not a 1v1 Commander expert, my inclination would be to add in Mother of Runes. She acts as both removal (if their blockers share a color, they have no blockers) or counter-disruption (by keeping her untapped to stop removal). Additionally, I'm not sure if Cold-Eyed Selkie is worthwhile, but if it is, Cephalid Constable should be better (they get no lands!).

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By: jonathan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2011/05/rafiq-of-the-platypus/#comment-16042 Thu, 19 May 2011 04:27:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=14641#comment-16042 Phyrexian Metamorph and Condemn are a must for the aggresive/general based mirrors.

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