Comments on: Insider: Trading For Cash Cards

By: pi

pi — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:30:55 +0000

In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser. I'm not sure it's really going to reach a ceiling soon. It's always been a popular card and people have always been pretty unwilling to trade copies they had. This means there are not going to be all that many on the market. With EDH becoming/being a very popular format the card's popularity is increasing. Pretty much any black EDH deck could use a copy. No new copies being printed, popularity increasing, people reluctant to trade or sell them: I would not be surprised if it continued on its current path

By: Sven

Sven — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:55:24 +0000

In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

I'll post my "result" in the forum later on, so we can discuss further 😉
I believe the bidwicket results might be more interesting to use as they work with quantriples, so one guy selling their card for way too much or underpriced doesn't influence too much…
Planning is to have those within a week or so…

By: Sigmund Ausfresser

Sigmund Ausfresser — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:09:28 +0000

In reply to Sven.

I don't know what delusional person is selling their Academy for $55.90. That's of course ludicrous unless it's in a foreign language perhaps.

This is an interesting perspective. And I'm pleased to see my other examples do fit your theory well about % price difference between low and high. I wonder what other cards are worth considering in this price range?

No worries on formatting, I always appreciate others' insights and ways of thinking. This is a clever concept worth challenging. For example, we can compare these %'s with those of Standard/Legacy staples to see how they differ.

By: Sigmund Ausfresser

Sigmund Ausfresser — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:07:40 +0000

In reply to pi.

Hi there,

You are right that Vampy has seen appreciation in price from EDH. I won't argue with you there. That being said, I just bought one on MOTL a couple weeks ago for $12. Sure, it's MP, but you can frequently see people selling these on MOTL for in the $15 dollar range. This despite the card's popularity.

Also, I think the card's price ceiling is very near, like around $20 as is Tolarian Academy. What do you think?

By: Sven

Sven — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:02:11 +0000

sorry for the format! 🙂

By: Sven

Sven — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:01:22 +0000

I believe "cash cards" are going to have a lesser spread between all sell prices, compared to other cards.
Meaning, low, avg and high from tcgplayer will be much closer to each other and the quandriples from bidwicket as well.
I'll try if I can somehow query my current data to see which cards have close values for low, avg and high from tcgplayer and see if something pops up that might be interesting to share.

Using data from 2/3 days ago, a quick dirty check shows that on average, the low = 71.6% avg and high = 168% avg

low avg highlow/avghigh/avg
Vampiric Tutor (6E) 17,70 21,40 26,20 83%122%
Vampiric Tutor (VI) 18,00 21,70 26,20 83%121%
Tolarian Academy 21,80 27,90 55,90 78%200%
Gaea's Cradle 61,80 70,00 80,00 88%114%
Lion's Eye Diamond 56,70 61,00 70,00 93%115%

As you can see, most of these cards have less "difference" (except for Gaea's Crade high vs avg).
What do you guys think?

By: pi

pi — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:48:57 +0000

Vampy sees a lot of play in EDH, hence the steady increase visible in the graph. I know one player in my group is VERY proud to have finally obtained one and another I recently heard complaining that absolutely nobody has these up for trade. I agree on the Academy, but Vampy may not have been the best example in this category.

I need to complete my set of LEDs before people catch on and yeah, I would also exchange Craddles for my Forces any day.

Btw, any reason why for the Craddle you don't display the full data range in the graph while you do for the others?