Comments on: Insider Basics: Do you talk about prices? Changing our language of trading https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:56:27 +0000 hourly 1 By: tragicslip https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/#comment-35869 Tue, 25 Sep 2012 01:06:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=30790#comment-35869 this is a good primer for traders. a bit of a restatement, but this is my internalization of the 3 observations:

make trading easy for your would be trade partners by following rule one. quickly make an offer. remember they want to trade and anything that makes that happen makes them happy generally.

when trading multiple cards, split them up. remember that people generally want to reciprocate and use this to your advantage to set up trades by splitting them up. this is often just as effective as giving away solid commons/uncommons to set up trades.

anytime you feel resistance, just walk away. it really isn’t worth the effort. you shouldn’t need to convince people to trade with you. if you can trade applying rules 1 & 2 then trading should be fun. encourage others to trade in similar “fun” ways and just politely refuse the grind trade.

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By: Christopher https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/#comment-35388 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:19:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=30790#comment-35388 I love 'fundamentals' articles. Keep it coming. Also, enjoyed hearing about Gen Con, living vicariously through these stories.

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By: Tyler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/#comment-35387 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:59:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=30790#comment-35387 This article is truly excellent. I really enjoy articles that spell out the basics of trading. It was interesting, and educational. This article itself was, in my opinion, totally worth the insider subscription. Thanks!

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/#comment-35380 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:33:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=30790#comment-35380 I long for the time when 'Observation 1' was what I mostly ran into. I find that many of the (few) old school players I run into are still willing to do things that way. It's certainly my preferred way of handling things as small pricing discrepancies get balanced out (I value X lower than you, but I value Y higher than you and on the total deal it balances out). Close to this are the people who discuss prices on a few cards but fortunately not on every card in the deal.

I haven't tried 'Observation 2' often, but I have been asking for random rare throws since forever (if they don't seem to have anything on my wants list) and that's always been lucrative. I might try to implement this a little more often.

'Observation 3' is something I do practice, but I notice that I either walk away quickly or not at all. Walking away when you've already invested a relevant amount of time is difficult. I always assume that there will be another one to trade with or buy from at some point in the future. Except for very rare cards this has always proven true.

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By: @gervinho_ https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/#comment-35379 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:45:35 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=30790#comment-35379 A very interesting article especially when you guys were just playing Magic and open a binder next to you 🙂

Did you got in touch with traders who pull out their smartphones immediately looking up prices? How do you proceed from there? I am not talking about a bulk trade but more of reasonable value with Modern/Standard staples like Restoration Angel, Kiki-Jiki etc.

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By: @plfeudo https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/08/insider-basics-do-you-talk-about-prices-changing-our-language-of-trading/#comment-35374 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:06:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=30790#comment-35374 Great article. Refreshing even. Looking forward to more Gencon stories this week from everyone who went.

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