Comments on: Insider: Finding Value in RtR Mythics https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:54:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Matthew Zielke https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36973 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:13:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36973 Last night I:

Sold 4x Sublime for 68 (17ea)

Bought 10 NiMi Dr @ 2.4-2.75

Bought 10 Nec Reg @ 0.51-0.63

Bought 8 Rakdos, Lord @ 1.5-1.61

Bought 12 Isperia @ 0.63-0.76

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By: Matthew Zielke https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36956 Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:50:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36956 Can we get a quick update? There has been some real movement on this list and I would like your opinion.

Thanks!

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36611 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:12:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36611 In reply to Brecht Van Reusel.

At this point, I am 50+ copies on Necropolis Agent and 40 copies of Vraska. Good luck to us both!

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By: Brecht Van Reusel https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36609 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:26:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36609 I invested in Vraska and Necropolis Regent.

How deep do you on these?

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By: Jason Schousboe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36578 Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:20:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36578 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

One of the really annoying things about Swiss is that people drop all the time, so you regularly get byes after losing a round. The marginal extra EV in the prize structure doesn’t help much when you’re trying to practice a new format and have to wait an hour for your next round.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36565 Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:31:57 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36565 In reply to Mathieu Malecot.

When you play a swiss draft, you are guaranteed to be play 3 rounds, while 4-3-3-2 is single elimination. There has been a healthy debate around why people play 4-3-2-2 at all, given that it pays out 1 less pack than either Swiss or 8-4. At this point the debate is unresolved but people continue to play every prize structure. If I was learning a format, I would play sealed deck or swiss so that I could be guaranteed to play more games.

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By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36564 Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:14:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36564 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

hmm, well for now if i want to cash out i’ll try the exchange section of the QS forums. digital is easier to speculate on because pricing is so much more competitive, but the currency restriction is going to cap how much money i sink into currency: tix. i speculate to make money, not just stay infinite although i think “going infinite” would be the first step in that process.

also, i don’t place top 2 enough to run 8-4 drafts. what are the reasons people play swiss versus 4-3-2-2 and vice versa?

is there ever a reason to open packs, or should i always use them to play in drafts?

why not create a cheat cheat for money picks in a draft? like take X because you pay for your draft with it outright. set the threshold as assuming you will win 2 packs every time you draft.

i do like that many of these specs are lower risk than paper specs because of redemption cycles.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36551 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:16:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36551 In reply to Mathieu Malecot.

Thanks for your comment! I can’t say whether paper or digital is easier to speculate on but in terms of mtgo I do like the lack of physical inventory and the 24/7 nature of the market.

In terms of tix buyers, this isn’t something I’ve ever explored. My instinct would be to go with private transactions with people you know or to go with the reputable dealers.

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By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36550 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:26:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36550 i like this article and only recently started playing seriously on mtgo’s limited formats. Niv, Necro and the unseen are all good pickups imo. but until i find a way to grind out more value online (gonna check out pauper and looking for other suggestions) i think it is easier to make money with paper cards. i am interested in how others compare the two.

ultimately i will use both if i can grind out profits, esp. as mtgo games are great when i want to learn something (much more competitive than an average FNM) even if mtgo remains a lower margin thing for me.

it would also be useful i think to have a list of mtgo handles on the forums for people that buy tix for cash (with pricing info).

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36548 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:18:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36548 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

Credit to you Mike, your article is what twigged me onto it. Cheers.

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By: drackmorph https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36547 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:53:22 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36547 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

Forgot Necropolis Regent :). I also like it and prior to the release of RTR I saw it in action in some of gerry and brad playtest videos and… it was awesome.

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36546 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:39:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36546 Nice to see someone else on board with Necropolis Regent also. I think it has huge potential for increase as well as potential to see play in Standard. It was one of the cards I wrote about last week. Great article. I look forward to a similar one for Gatecrash.

-mike-

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36545 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:29:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36545 In reply to drackmorph.

Thanks for your comments!

In regards to Sphinx’s Revelation and Rakdos’s Return, I find these 2 cards to be the hardest to evaluate, and thus I feel my calls on these are the shakiest amongst all the mythics. Part of my thinking did indeed compare Revelation to Stroke of Genius.

Speculators should definitely be on the lookout for cheap Modern staples, particularly ones from Scars block, but the price trend for mythics is clear. There is a bottom for the average mythic price during release events and prior to redemption starting so speculate accordingly. =)

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By: drackmorph https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/10/insider-finding-value-in-rtr-mythics/#comment-36544 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:00:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=32980#comment-36544 “Sphinx’s Revelation” => I agree.. I said it once and will say it again, this card may went up. It feels like an improvement to stroke of genius a card that i used to like a lot. However, give it time…this kind of cards usually do not get love right away.

“Angel of Serenity” => I still see room for this card to go higher. It is simply amazing and it plays in multiple decks. However, on the other hand, the RTR stocks will get bigger…

“Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius” => Some other speculators already point out this card as a sleeper and I agree. The card is amazing.

“Rakdos, Lord of Riots” => Good call. I must not forget to keep my eye on it :).

“Vraska the Unseen” => Great standard planeswalker with a price tag which only had went down and down….so it is more or less where i want it 🙂

“Isperia, Supreme Judge” => Some of my playmates like this card..however, the only thing i like in it is it’s low price. However, still, I do not feel very comfortable to invest in it.

Overral,

There might be some good RTR calls, but in general, I think currently modern is a safer call.

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