Comments on: Insider: Return to Redemption https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:54:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37321 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:37:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37321 In reply to koen_knx.

I like Champion. It’s the right colour and tribe for Boros, and has held a higher floor than something comparable, like Stromkirk Noble. Here’s hoping!

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By: koen_knx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37318 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:06:02 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37318 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

I really hope this deck makes it happen, I’m still sitting on 30 Champion of the Parish 😛 !

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37311 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:11:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37311 In reply to koen_knx.

Also, Sam Black finished 9th at GP Charleston with Precinct Captain as a 4 of. He wrote about that deck at SCG today, and the deck list can be found here.

http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=3807&d=222691

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37300 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:05:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37300 In reply to koen_knx.

I expect there will be both RRR and GGG draft queues simultaneously. DII was still available to be drafted when AVR was released, and I think we’ll see RtR still available for drafting as well. This is not confirmed, just what I think will happen. Even with RRR available, GGG will be the draft queue of choice.

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By: koen_knx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37297 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:45:53 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37297 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

I have a question about RtR-drafting : first i thought there would be NO more RtR once Gatecrash is released. That it would be shut down for 4 months (till Dragon’s Maze). That would drastically impact those rareprices. But from your answer i feel you mean something else, that RtR drafts will still be there but their numbers will just be outclassed by the new set. Is that the case ?

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37224 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:39:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37224 In reply to koen_knx.

This is a good point! It’s generally true that mythics will hold more value over time. But in comparing ISD to RtR, rares from RtR might turn out to be better speculative targets due to how long each was drafted for. ISD will have been opened for a much longer time than RtR, which severely depresses the price of it’s rares.

Thus, we get a card like Stromkirk Noble at 2 tix. Compare that to something like Hellrider at 7 tix. Both appear as a 4 of in a particular deck, but prices are drastically different because ISD was opened so much more than DKA.

With RtR, drafting will slow up considerably oncee Gatecrash is released, and so rares from RtR should see higher prices and larger price spikes than rares from ISD. In fact, I expect a very good buying opportunity in RtR to come up soon. The unusual block structure of this Ravnica block is something the modo economy has no experience with, but we can make some educated guesses on how it will affect prices.

Although you have have a bad experience speculating on rares in the past, be sure to keep an open mind to how things might be different this time around. Understanding how underlying factors have changed allows us to anticipate how the market might move differently this time.

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By: koen_knx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37220 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:24:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37220 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

It’s just that precinct captain reminds me so much of elite inquisitor, and we know where that stands now (0,1 tic). I think people without a lot of tic will be even more disappointed when this misses the jump. I must say i started out with only 50 tix for speculating myself and all those first steps into speculating went wrong just because i bought exclusively cards that weren’t worth much more then 0,3 tic (instigator gang, kessig cagebreakers, elite inquisitor, high priest…). None of these went up, ever. I only started making some tix going into the ISD-lands, and with these tix went to the other medium price cards you mentioned (mostly you because you play the online field almost solo).

So I think people with only a few tix should better buy those low mythics like Ulvara of Regent, because they will never disappeap totally in value (liek those rares did).

But thx for all the tips, always looking forward to your articles.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37217 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:00:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37217 In reply to koen_knx.

I can’t take any credit or blame for calls I haven’t made, but as a writer for QS I am doing my best to deliver good analysis. The Precinct Captain call is a card I think that has potential, and for players just starting out in speculating or who don’t have a lot of tix, I think it’s a reasonable bet.

I do believe that mythics are the way to go on MTGO, but speculating on a 5+ tix card might not be for everyone. Please take this into account whenever I make a recommendation for new or smaller bank roll speculators.

As for the RtR recommendations, I stand behind my analysis. I am looking for value and thinking about the medium to long term (6+ months). I think my calls in that article are pretty good. The two top value picks I offered, Vraska and Necropolis Regent, are both priced above the range I recommended buying them. If you want to unload any of these two, and you bought them in the recommended range, I will happily buy them from you at the price you paid.

Thanks for the comment! I appreciate any and all criticism, as I don’t think I’ve got MTG Finance completely figured out. Holding me accountable for what I’ve written and recommended is exactly what I want from my readers.

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By: koen_knx https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37216 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:27:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37216 I’m very disappointed about the Precinct captain call, brings back very bad memories of instigator gang, kessig cagebreakers and other very nice looking rares that i bought in on after QS hyped them, but those never made any money. Weren’t you the guy saying mythics are the only place to go in standard ?

That doesn’t mean I’m not a big fan of your articles, several hundreds of my tix are going the right way thanks to your suggestions (ISD-land, old ravlands, gifts ungiven).

Although I’m not happy with the ongoing drop of the rtr-mythics, i bought in on them after your article on them, but perhaps it was too soon (no bottom reached yet it seems, except for necropolis regent).

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37153 Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:34:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37153 In reply to Ryan Abcede.

The Zen fetch land prices are currently quite a bit above previous in season highs on modo, so I am cautious. I will be paying attention to their prices during the season in order to gauge how to approach them next year. It’s entirely possible that the fetch lands are good investments right now, but I have no experience in how their prices will act over the coming months. With no guide, I prefer to look elsewhere.

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By: Ryan Abcede https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37151 Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:22:57 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37151 With Zen redemption officially finished, do you think the fetch lands will come down a little? They are obviously great specs for when Modern seasons hit. Without Starcity prematurely bumping their prices it seems like there are still opportunities out there to invest in them.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37145 Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:38:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37145 In reply to Sebastien Morin.

Thanks! I really think this redemption ratio will be a good tool for identifying trends in online set prices, and from that the underlying value. I will be returning to it to on a more regular basis to give updates.

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By: Sebastien Morin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2012/11/insider-return-to-redemption/#comment-37142 Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:04:15 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=33511#comment-37142 One of your best articles to date. Great job

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