Comments on: Insider: Changes to Redemption https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:46:08 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43305 Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:20:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43305 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

crazy. i am not sure this hurts huge mtgo bots as much as wizards intends. looks like you just force the smaller guys out by making it too expensive for them at a smaller scale. in any case it is bullish for paper and bearish for digital at first glance.

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By: JC Cunningham https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43214 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:57:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43214 That is just another reason I only draft online, not play anything else.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43211 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:48:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43211 In reply to JC Cunningham.

They’ve come out and explicitly said that Modern Masters would not be redeemable. Cards from this set will see some decline in paper, but on mtgo, these cards are going to tank hard.

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By: JC Cunningham https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43209 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:13:37 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43209 Is Modern Masters going to be redeemable? If so now is the perfect time for them to up the price, because I have a feeling everyone that has ever even thought about redeeming would be all about redeeming MM. I do not know if this is print only, I have not seen anything either way. To be honest even at 25 per set…. would still draft it a ton and redeem.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43189 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:54:43 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43189 In reply to casey bennett.

I agree, the $20 increase seems steep. But, if redemption activity is as large as is alleged, then maybe WoTC felt it was necessary to correct a (from their perspective) market imbalance.

Thanks for reading and commenting.

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By: casey bennett https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43173 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:55:15 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43173 In reply to Matthew Lewis.

I think what you say about accepting the margins, at least temporarily, is quite likely among the better-established or larger redeemers. A very small increase followed by gradually pushing the margins to find the eventual equilibrium is probably the best business play long-term.

Also, I think the WotC hike is a little steep. They couldn’t have just made it a flat $20? Just my gripe.

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By: Matthew Lewis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43164 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:03:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43164 In reply to Anthony Albano.

This is not only possible, but likely in my opinion. As an initial guess, I think we’ll see the price for digital sets fall by 10-15 tix on average, and we’ll see a corresponding price increase in paper.

It’s possible there will be a period of adjustment among the redeemers too where their margins are reduced as they figure out the changes to the market. In that case, some of the changes in price will be absorbed, at least temporarily, by redeemers accepting lower margins.

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By: Anthony Albano https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/02/insider-changes-to-redemption/#comment-43144 Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:23:35 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=36078#comment-43144 Isn’t there a good chance that the increase in price for redemption will also increase the price of IRL cards? 2,000 copies of a given mythic hitting the market a week is not an insignificant number. If this results in a drop to a redemption rate of 1,500 sets a week what could be the result in the upward trend of the IRL cards?

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