Comments on: Insider: Modern Control Decks and Foil Profits

By: mirageOfHope

mirageOfHope — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:41:07 +0000

Nice article, Jared! I speculated on a few Bloodhall Oozes really early on and found the foils were dirt cheap, in fact I got mine at around or just under $1, which wasn’t much more than the nonfoils, so it seemed like a great deal.

By: mirageOfHope

mirageOfHope — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:38:48 +0000

In reply to JC Cunningham. I usually speculate a bit on foils I think will go up because of Standard. I used to play with them, but I'm starting to care less about having foils for Standard due to how fickle it can be and just use the non-foils for play and sell off the foils at a profit. For example, I got Farseeks for 2 each and sold them at 7 each. Now I'm having the same conundrum with Flinthoof Boar and Burning-Tree Emissary. It seems the more I get into MTG Finance, the harder it is to hang on to these cards that appreciate 3-5 times their value in a few short months. I don't really get rid of foils I am currently or might use for EDH. Foiling out my EDH decks is part of the reason I'm into Magic Finance, so that I can fund such an opulent activity.

By: Jared Elick

Jared Elick — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:01:54 +0000

In reply to JC Cunningham. It can be. I have an almost-foiled EDH deck worth nearly a grand, and I keep forcing myself not to sell it off. I also use foils in my standard deck. Granted, I get the foils fairly cheap. I find them cheap on eBay, buy low on TCG, but it is still largely mixing pleasure with business.

By: Jared Elick

Jared Elick — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:42:18 +0000

In reply to Justin Smith. Ooh, definitely. I completely forgot that one. I still need to buy a few.

By: Jared Elick

Jared Elick — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:41:43 +0000

In reply to David Schumann. Yes, but we are hoping to see these cards grow now, and MM comes out in June. I certainly can see newly emerging decks cause price increases in the next 3 months.

By: Kyle Falbo

Kyle Falbo — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:01:57 +0000

I would think with Modern Masters soon approaching with the dedicated foil slot in each pack that one would want to get away from Pre-Zen Modern Foils. During the SCG Winter Sale I picked up a good number of Foil Fast Lands, and Inkmoth Nexi. Neither have seen much movement but I’m still in under buylist.

By: Justin Smith

Justin Smith — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:02:32 +0000

Don’t forget foil Squelch, if you’re looking for another effect similar to Shadow of Doubt

By: JC Cunningham

JC Cunningham — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:18:44 +0000

Foils are an interesting conundrum. I have been a “foil whore” as I like to call it since I started playing. I have really debated moving to non-foil exclusively for personal use lately because I know if I sold my foil stuff I could come out very well. I do actually speculate in both on a regular basis, but I also keep a lot of foils. The problem is if I enjoy the foils and the game is for enjoyment I shouldn’t worry about value of my foils vs moving them, but as Modern continues to grow WOTC will continue to reprint cards and over time almost all foils will drop. It’s really tough to hold onto things like foil Thoughseize with them around $140 a piece, knowing that they will be printed more later and that value will drop?

Am I the only one here with this issue, or is this common for some of you as well. I think this line is very difficult when you are trying to mix enjoyment with common business sense.

By: David Schumann

David Schumann — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:47:32 +0000

In reply to JonyFerreira. As a follow up, MM also promises a foil in every pack, might lower the ceiling a bit of the foil commons/uncommons.

By: JonyFerreira

JonyFerreira — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:48:22 +0000

What do you think will be MM impact on foils prices?

By: pi

pi — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:32:05 +0000

I think a Legacy decline, if any, is likely balanced out by an increase in popularity of EDH. Not that both groups like exactly the same cards, Duals will likely see only little impact of a Legacy decline, but the impact on Force of Will is likely going to be much larger. I think on the whole old cards will more and more become the casual player’s and collector’s territory, but, many cards show that the casual player and collector are willing to pay for more expensive cards.

On the whole moving from Legacy to Modern is likely a good move. Don’t lose sight of the old cards though as they become more rare every day, so if something seems to dip rather low there might be a good opportunity.

I personally plan to watch for opportunities to pick up good casual cards and old gems on the cheap should Legacy really start to decline and sit on them until they go up again. Might take a while, but I’m in it for the long run.

Otherwise I agree with the Modern suggestions, nice to see Shadow of Doubt is finally seeing some action. Have been getting quite a few in bulk.