Comments on: Insider: The Legend of Legends Legends https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:46:02 +0000 hourly 1 By: Brian Siegel https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-1924161 Sat, 04 Nov 2017 13:06:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-1924161 Please sir. If you don’t know and have some sort of opinion one way or the other about Angus Mackenzie (I’m talking cards, not faceless vouchers), please don’t buy Angus Mackenzie.

This post was years ago and it occured to me while reading your article, which was well read btw so excellent job there, that people who could care less about the cards are the ones who will have them and arguably worse, raise the prices for the people who actually intend to play and appreciate the cards.

I understand that you do this for a living and Im just an outdated magic player who still thinks Cyclopean Tomb is a great card. It is.

But there is something to be said, I think, for those who invest with integrity. Even if it merely artistic, personal, or otherwise “valueless” integrity. I realize Im speaking to a ghost of four years past, but thank you for writing about old school. Even if I spent this whole Reply going on about it. Haha

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-51108 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:29:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-51108 In reply to mirageOfHope.

😉

Yeah, that’s the one I meant.

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By: mirageOfHope https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-51106 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:16:31 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-51106 In reply to mirageOfHope.

DOT p h p at the end of that link

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By: mirageOfHope https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-51104 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:13:08 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-51104 In reply to pi.

I think you mean http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/misc/rarity-info

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-51086 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 11:23:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-51086 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

Here’s the original overview these numbers are general based on:
http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/misc/rarity-info

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-51065 Tue, 09 Apr 2013 07:21:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-51065 In reply to Mathieu Malecot.

Gotcha. I knew there were some print run numbers but wasn’t sure which sets were available. Good to know!

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By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50997 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 18:23:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50997 In reply to Mathieu Malecot.

older sets have public print runs. i compiled them in an article.

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By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50996 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 18:22:57 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50996 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

that;’s english copies only

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50995 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 18:15:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50995 In reply to Mathieu Malecot.

Interesting how actual numbers exist. I assume that’s English copies, or does that include Italian as well? Thanks for the comment – tough luck on the Angus. But auctions are definitely a good way to go when purchasing these!

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By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50984 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 16:03:04 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50984 i just got my Adun for 31$. had to let Angus go as bidding got too hot for my tastes. these are fun generals and with 19300 copies made of each rare, these spikes aren’t that surprising. there is not enough supply to accommodate small increases in demand.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50979 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 15:13:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50979 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

While I did make that trade expecting to see an increase over time on those Legends I also figured the foil Reya should stay at least stable or rise over time. I did not expect an increase this quickly.

I very much like playing with little known legends. For me the originals from Legends are ideal. Their abilities are often a little wacky for their colors, they are often strangely costed and quite a few are not half bad. I definitely like their art too, but I don’t focus on the art of cards much beyond recognition.

For me what SCG pays is largely irrelevant, way too expensive to get it there from here and likely the price has come down by the time it arrives. Of course if I could use credit that way I probably would. I have an Adun and Tetsuo reserved at the shop I trade in at, at about $40 together (building up to a larger order, they also have 2 Chains reserved for me in the same way). I almost feel like I should just get all their Legends stuff as I got 2 The Abyss from them too not very long ago.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50963 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 11:08:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50963 In reply to pi.

Yeah, that trade just got really bad for me :(. But I guess I wouldn’t have even known these cards existed if it hadn’t been for our chat. They are so flavorful and I love their artwork – I suspect many others agree.

The price spike does seem a bit artificially forced, I would agree. That being said, any NM Angus at $35 should be an immediate snap-buy for one big reason: SCG pays $40! Ultimately that’s why I thought $50 was solid. I sold Card Kingdom about $38.50 in cards for $50 in credit and used that credit to buy Angus. Now I can either sell the Angus for $40 (increasing my net for my sold cards by $1.50) or I can keep it and try to trade it with a value around $80. Either way I am grinding a little value in the deal while also having the opporunity to brew in EDH with him 🙂

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-the-legend-of-legends-legends/#comment-50955 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:59:18 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37122#comment-50955 I’m pretty sure I mentioned Adun a few times in our chats. In fact we made a trade including a copy… (And an Angus too, that trade has started to look pretty incredible from my side).

I’ve been on top of Legends Legends for a while. They are reserved and reserved cards tend to rarely come down after they go up. Their rise is powered by casual, EDH in particular. Demand is not likely to go down anytime soon. These cards are quite popular as generals and hard to find, especially now that speculators have jumped on them.

On the other hand, I’m not sure I consider $50 for an Angus a great deal. SCG is raising the price while they have no stock. Who is buying this card at $80? This push upwards is still a bit too artificial for my taste. I have faith in the rise in itself, but I do expect other shops to start undercutting the SCG price. I would still be hesitant to get in on Angus anywhere above $35. In fact I passed on an opportunity to get in at about that price recently (but I already have a few spare copies).

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