Comments on: Insider: When Trade-in Credit Makes Sense https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:03:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jasonsucks https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-65218 Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:03:12 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-65218 Jason Alt is a turdburgler

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50494 Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:54:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50494 In reply to Vincent Pascoe.

Vincent, I’m glad your experience with Card Kingdom was acceptable. Mine have been as well (though I did just look at their site and they are now sold out of Innistrad booster boxes :(). Oh well, like you said I hope to use store credit for other boxes or to speculate on Modern after MM hits. This sounds like a solid plan.

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By: Vincent Pascoe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50454 Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:35:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50454 Since signing up Here I’ve sold $590 worth of innistrad to card kingdom for store credit it did get knocked down to $576 But I feel thats very reasonable considering some of the cards I did play in draft with out sleves. I hope to use the store credit for dragons maze boxes or speculate on singles after modern masters hits.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50275 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:23:51 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50275 In reply to David Schumann.

Thanks for the comment. You definitely went a bit further than I had anticipated as I was just using round numbers to emphasize a point. Yes 30% on top of $70 is only $91 :-P. Sorry if that confused anyone!

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50269 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:27:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50269 Sigmund,

I enjoyed the article. One thing that caught my attention was this statement ” Having $100 in store credit on hand from selling $70 of cards could mean you can go deeper on a new speculation target than you otherwise would have.” You get 30% more of the $70 dollars, i.e. $91 not 100…take your credit in cash * 1+0. in store trade in credit (for example $70 * 1.3 (30% trade in credit)=$91. Otherwise you might have some confused readers expecting more than they get.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50255 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:31:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50255 In reply to JC Cunningham.

Yeah, I often forget about Channel Fireball because they aren’t in mtg.gg. When you go to sell cards, do you just always check CFB in addition to mtg.gg to see if you should be sending cards to CFB instead? Seems like twice the work at that point.

Regarding Jace in Standard, I remember when Ben Bleiweiss made a point to highlight the fact that you could have traded in your 4 NM Jace’s for credit to get a MP Unlimited Time Walk. Maybe I should have done that trade after all…

I think I will look to getting store credit more often. Cash is so nice because I can see my account increase as I profit. But to maximize value overall, trade-in credit must be the way to go.

Regarding Card Kingdom: I get dinged sometimes too, but I find they pay rather high on many cards and they buy a lot of random worthless stuff for $0.20 to $0.60, so I figure that helps make up for the dinging on the bigger cards a bit.

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By: JC Cunningham https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50249 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:57:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50249 I have been using the credit option for years. I can’t tell you how much credit I got from JTMS when he was around 100 in standard. I got almost full retail value out of them going to Channel. I do agree with Justin regarding Card Kingdom. I used to sell to them a ton, and still sell to them, but they have gotten really bad about dinging things that shouldn’t be. I have to wonder if that is why they have such high buy prices, so they can adjust in that manner. I rarely get close to what I should get from them, fortunately that is usually higher than anywhere else. I love Channel for the credit, because I tend to buy more from them, and with their free shipping on orders over $50 that helps too.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50245 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:40:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50245 As I often purchase cards for my collection / decks I generally like getting credit if the bonus is high enough. As you know I have recently sent $950 in credit to a shop I frequently use. I fully expect to use that credit on cards they have priced cheap to fairly.

If I am going to spend the cash on cards anyway I might as well get more by taking credit.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50243 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:23:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50243 In reply to Justin Smith.

Great add, Justin. Thanks for the comment! I haven’t tried Coolstuffinc before, but I have lots of casual goodies to unload. Maybe I should check it out.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50242 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:22:37 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50242 In reply to Jonathan Nguyen.

Jonathan, thanks for the comment and insightful feedback. In this specific case I mainly stick to vendors listed on mtg.gg. Personally I’ve now sold to Troll and Toad, Star City Games, Channel Fireball (not on mtg.gg yet), AdventurersON, Card Kingdom, and ABU Games. If you’re interested in hearing others’ experiences with various vendors check out the vendor assessment thread in the forums. There you can read about the experiences of others (though be careful, as most are negative).

You think Shock Lands will drop even further? I can definitely see that being likely for Gatecrash Shocks…but Steam Vents is already below $6 on TCG Player. You think it will go lower than that? Eventually they’ll return to their pre-Modern levels, at which point they really shouldn’t decrease further. Granted supply is much higher, but now these are actually seeing play…in two formats even! I’m not buying more copies at the moment since I already have money invested here, but I will continue to trade for them.

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By: Justin Smith https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50241 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:20:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50241 I’ve stopped selling the Card Kingdom for the most part, they always ding me on stuff, last time being $13 on a $46 sell order. I usually stick with ABU, AdventuresON, or T&T, they buy most stuff and a lot of times (in the case of ABU especially) even have the highest buylist. Coolstuffinc, while not crawled by mtg.gg is also solid, moreso for casual staples than recent T2 stuff.

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By: Jonathan Nguyen https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50230 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:57:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50230 Consider adding trusted vendors which you buylist too, or reference and article in the past to add value to your article for your subscribers. I like mtg.gg too, it is really useful for me in deciding if I should buy/sell something without checking multiple sites. As for shocklands I think you can get them cheaper from currant levels in just a few months. Summer is notorious for doldrums on the demand side.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50207 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:54:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50207 In reply to terry tandlmayer.

I am sitting on 1 box of Zendikar myself, and I am kicking myself for not purchasing more. That being said, I have to agree with David – $300 is a bit too bullish for me. For the longest time, Onslaught boxes could be had for around $150 even though the Onslaught Fetches were getting very expensive. The price on Onslaught has since risen, and Zendikar is legal in Modern. These two factors have bumped the price ceiling on Zendikar. But I think $250 is more reasonable in the next year or so unless Magic really continues to explode. Even if it does, are people really going to crack boxes of Zendikar for the Fetch Lands?

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By: terry tandlmayer https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50205 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:38:34 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50205 Dave..really appreciate your insight..Never really thought about the fetchlands being reprinted good catch

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50203 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:27:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50203 In reply to terry tandlmayer.

You are correct on bulk rares (though it’s more rare than you’d think). What you need to keep in mind is that bulk rares have a “set price” that most stores will give you for them, so it’s worthwhile to sort out the really bad ones (thoughtlace anyone) and unload those. I have a smaller box of bulk rares I keep to allow casual/edh players to trade out of. I think you may be overvaluing the zendikar boxes (unless they are from the first wave) a bit.$350 seems quite high for a largely printed set. While there are the possibilities of foil fetchlands, most of the other cards are considerably cheaper…I could see the boxes going for $275-300, but there’s a strong possibility of WOTC reprinting the old onslaught fetchlands in the time frame you’re discussed which would drop the value of the Zendikar ones somewhat (as there’d be more fetching options for modern)

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By: terry tandlmayer https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/04/insider-when-trade-in-credit-makes-sense/#comment-50198 Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:06:22 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=37006#comment-50198 Sigmund..i’m sitting on 2 boxes of Zendikar and am wondering if this will hit $350 within the next couple of years?Since you like sealed i appreciate your opinion.Also i’m sitting on 16000 bulk rares and am reluctant to sell them since bulk cards can turn into big bucks(glimpse of nature).Am i wrong in thinking that what i consider bulk can turn into gold somewhere down the line?

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