Comments on: Insider: The Effect of Judge Promos on Price

By: Jose Gasque

Jose Gasque — Tue, 21 May 2013 14:30:24 +0000

good insider article. thank you.

By: David Schumann

David Schumann — Tue, 21 May 2013 14:13:57 +0000

In reply to douglaslinn. Not yet...I have plans of doing another article with regards to a general reprint, specifically in regards to the actual price drop % wise (since I can't think of any exceptions in which a reprint in a major set didn't drop the price of a card) and it would be very useful to determine what kind of % we can expect a card to drop when it's spoiled as a reprint.

By: douglaslinn

douglaslinn — Tue, 21 May 2013 13:38:47 +0000

This article is a true tour de force. David, this is one for the ages and I love and respect the time and effort you put into it. This will be a lasting resource. This is the kind of research I love on this site – it gives definitive answers to a common question.

Though it\’s not a judge foil, could you/did you run an analysis on Loyal Retainers?

By: David Schumann

David Schumann — Tue, 21 May 2013 11:57:38 +0000

In reply to pi. Pi...Wasteland and Wheel of Fortune..definitely got mixed up..I believe the Judge Sol Ring is worth so much is probably based on several factors, one of which is the increase in the judge program would require a larger print run, the other is that the judge sol ring is the original artwork (#5 on my summarized list) which I believe carries a lot of weight. I do remember the days of Balduvian Horde being amazing (and valuable) and you have a valid point; creatures that at a time were valuable based on their power level will most likely be less valuable as judge foils because WoTC seems to be pushing more powerful creatures as opposed to more powerful spells.

By: pi

pi — Tue, 21 May 2013 10:16:20 +0000

I think Wasteland and Wheel of Fortune might have gotten mixed up?

Balduvian Horde used to be at the level of Birds and Wrath (about 10 guilders, this was well before the euro) when the judge foil was released. It was so rare to come across a judge foil that I don’t remember any kind of value change for it. I do remember the few I saw being in the 45-50 guilders range. Horde was hurt much more by being outclassed.

I find it intresting to see the impact on Recruiter being much less than on Xiahou Dun, though it makes sense. Xiahou Dun is played 1x in EDH decks, Recruiter 4x in Legacy decks (and sometimes 1x in EDH decks). Likely Recruiter demand increased now that (somewhat) more affordable copies have become available, while I would guess that Xiahou Dun demand has remained somewhat similar. I wonder what their prices will be like a couple of years from now as they remain super rare, will they rebound?

Could there possibly be a print size difference between older and newer judge foils? I reckon that could be part of the reason Sol Ring is worth so much.