Many people are saying that once a player cracks a pack and pulls a goyf that they will “look for 3x more to complete a playset”. I don’t feel this is necessarily true. I think the chance is high that they crack a Goyf, think to themselves “Man, I could get sooo many cards I need for this Goyf, and there’s no way I’ll ever get 3x more” and will then proceed to try and trade it.

That’s the other side of the coin I guess 🙂

Thanks for the comment! I agree with you that the new art is good AND bad for the same reasons you’ve stated. Here in London (Canada) the only Goyf / Bob available are all the MM versions… those people who have the old style don’t want to part with them and I personally haven’t seen any more of them come up for trade even after the MM release. I honestly feel that the only reason these aren’t falling hard like the other MM cards is because they are real staples in high demand. Many of the other cards saw fringe play, but these bad boys are the ones EVERYONE wants. As such I think the demand is still so high that there probably won’t be a price reduction on the big 3 (Goyf / Bob / Clique)… which means that WotC failed by making this a such a limited run because it hasn’t reduced the entry barrier to Modern for the cards that are actually needed for tier 1 decks.

If they really wanted to reduce the entry barrier they would send out a few more boxes to stores to get more into the market… however that would further crash the good rares that saw reprints like Aether Vial and Engineered Explosives etc…

Also: Price Memory. People are used to Goyf being worth $100+ so if it’s a goyf (MM or FS, doesn’t matter which), it’s worth $100+ to them.

With the number of drafts happening at every second of every day this does not surprise me. My twitter feed is full of people drafting MM and commenting on how awesome it is… interest in MTGO drafting of MM is not going to die down until it stops being offered further reducing prices IMHO.

Hey Vince thanks for the reply!

So I checked out ebay vs SCG to see which you’d get more for your FoW… looks like they end around $60 ea on eBay and SCG buylists for $50 in NM. If your FoW are NM you could go either way to sell, as you’d get just about the same $ after fees. SCG is also buying MM Goyf for $80 and it sells for around $90 eBay so again, after fees you’re pretty close.

This is strange, but they’re buying doubling season MM for $15 which is higher than it’s selling on eBay in a lot of cases… I’d unload that right away to their buylist ASAP! Elspeth is also on SCG buy @ $15 and is selling for $20ish on ebay, so use your judgement on that one.

So basically if you were going to GP Vegas just to sell and not to play, I’d probably skip it as buy prices from SCG are about in line w / eBay in most cases and you can save all of the $ and time you’d spend going to GP Vegas just unloading to buylists at par. The only thing you’d have problems moving is the 40K c/u, but put it on craigslist or kijiji and they will go to a local player.

RE: The LoA, unless you need the $, I wouldn’t sell it yet… I’m hoping something happens to it’s “legality status” in commander or legacy / vintage… I’m holding out hope at least! Any change in it’s legality = ++++$ so I’m sitting on mine at least. Just my personal opinion on this one :).

Friday night in LA(ok the valley) I saw kid trade 4 voice of resergences in for $25 store credit a peice and then use that to buy 9 packs of MMA… Claiming theres so much value!… I think he opened a foil kicken finks thats about it.

ON MTGO I’ve rare drafted and got 10 rares and was like I need to build a deck?!

My situation I need help with is that I am traveling working this week. Unless I go to a store today or buylist stuf I can’t get rid of my cards till after GP Vegas.I don’t have a modern deck I’d like one. I opened one box got my gohf… Most stores are sold out so I bought One box at $250 to leave it sealed. I Can’t go to vegas unless I just drive there sunday to sell my one goyf, one doubleing season, one elspeth… should I go there sunday and sell my 6 force of wills , library of alexandria, and 40,000 bulk cards.

I’m going to try to never crack open another pack just for fun.

Yes, but they’re the biggest bull in the industry and can kinda push the other sows around to get their way haha 😛

right. which is bullish for MM cards no?

we also know Wizards is supporting the format. foil dark confidant from MM might be ugly, but it is in fact the rarest version of the card ever printed.

if you have sealed product there is no hurry to open. i just got 40$ per player for an 8 player draft (i played so 280$). if you have legit staples, like Spell Snare, no need to move them unless you’ve yet to secure enough shocklands. shocklands will also benefit from an increase in modern play. that said, SCG is offering those on sale and paying good money for your MM. i wonder what their endgame is?

after people realize no one buys MM cards for this high prices, it will start to drop

This may top it – David Williams sent this tweet last night:

This draft went well. pic.twitter.com/E5zcVcmY3w— David Williams (@dwpoker) June 14, 2013

Not clear whether he busted both ‘Goyfs or if they were “merely” among the 24 packs. Either way, someone hit the lottery.

NP! I’ve also had success positioning overpriced cards like that by saying things like: “SCG has this listed at $30, but I only value it at $22-25. Would it interest you at that price?” Since it’s already down to $13-15 REAL $ you’re still doing well! 🙂

While I am not familiar with the economics of MtG cards in Europe I can make a few assumptions:

If there is not much sealed product in Europe, I would try and bring back SEALED product to appease the masses who are probably clamouring for it. I know there are $30 drafts happening here in Canada, so provided you can get sealed at a good price perhaps that’s a way for you to make some $ AND have some fun?

Secondly, while again I’m not an expert in international markets these days we live in a global economy. Anyone can check eBay prices and buy / sell at those prices. As such with the influx of MM cards that will flood the market after GP Vegas I would invest only in MM staples and avoid all fringe played cards. This includes cards like Glen-Elenda Archmage because while they do see play, they don’t see it in the quantity that would make it an auto-acquire to anyone looking through your binder.

That’s my $0.2! Hope it helps 🙂

Thanks…appreciate the tips. New to the mtg finance game…

As an additional follow up:

If you don;t find a buyer / trader in the next few days (pre-GP Vegas) I’d probably list it on eBay w / a $30 BIN. Looks like most people are trying to get $33+ as BINS which would make yours a desirable buy. After fees (approx. 13%ish) you’d still get $25-26 which is what non-bin auctions seem to be closing at.

Modern season?