Comments on: Insider: Modern Staples To Invest In https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:43:44 +0000 hourly 1 By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57851 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:21:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57851 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

I wouldn’t count MM as the norm, Shock also have the painless option while the Painlands will damage you whenever you want colored mana and Shocks have not been printed in a set aimed at beginners.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57847 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:27:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57847 In reply to pi.

I recall seeing something like that as well. Though, if Wizards can reprint City of Brass and Shock Lands, perhaps Pain Lands are no longer off the table.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57846 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:16:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57846 In reply to Carl Szalich.

There was this article on the wizards site where they explained that they found players often really disliked taking damage from their lands. This was quoted as the major reason they were moved out of the Core Set. I would not count on them seeing a reprint.

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By: Carl Szalich https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57813 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:25:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57813 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

I want the classic pain lands back! I miss tapping my Karpulsian Forests and checking out that goblin lounging in a mud hole at the Sulfurous Springs! lol

… Seriously though, it’s been a while since they’ve been reprinted, they come into play untapped and can be used for colorless mana with no ill effects. I think they’re ripe for the reprinting. (Not that they’ll be worth anything, just that they’d be nice to have back)

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57796 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:26:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57796 In reply to David Schumann.

Wouldn’t a cycle of Horizon Canopy lands be awesome? That would be my preference! Well, assuming Fetches are a no go until after Shocks Rotate.

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By: aregand https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57791 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:49:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57791 In reply to David Schumann.

I agree that they will likely print some mana fixing but it shouldn’t be to ‘fix’ price or availability concerns at least relative to Modern. Maybe they get more play casually or as a short term placeholder for fetches for the budget conscious. I would like to see something new in Theros myself but that is a personal preference.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57790 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:42:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57790 In reply to aregand.

It’s not that they need to reprint the filter lands it’s that they aren’t printing the buddy lands in M14 and either people will be forced to go back to 2 color decks, or take a lot of damage from shocks when Theros rolls around, unless some other mana fixing shows up in Theros. Otherwise you’ll have shocks and that’s it.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57789 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:42:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57789 In reply to aregand.

Filter Lands are so interesting, and I’m not sure what to make of them. I personally don’t like playing with them a whole lot. By using Fetch Lands / Shock Lands for primary manabase, I’d rather have a couple Check Lands or Scars Lands to plug in the holes vs. Filter Lands. An opening hand with just 2 Filter Lands is terrible, while having 2 Check Lands is only annoying and 2 Scars Lands is terrific. I think this is consistent with the number crunch you did. Perhaps supply of Filter Lands is much lower? I honestly see no reason to play Filter Lands at all in Modern – I’d sell my copies even if I didn’t expect a reprint. They just seem less important in Modern (perhaps EDH is a different story?).

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57788 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:38:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57788 In reply to David Schumann.

David,

Thanks for the comment! It was great meeting you as well – thanks for making some last minute changes to stop by so we could meet. I’m sure that phone call was quite the surprise! I am glad you found a couple gems in that bulk box! I felt bad taking that Gosta Dirk from your LGS! I need to check out the bulk box at my own LGS next, I’ve been inspired!

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57787 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:36:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57787 In reply to Carl Szalich.

I think set specific words are safe from seeing reprint in a core set or even expansion. Nothing is safe from Modern Masters, but some cards are larger targets than others. It’s really a craps shoot at this point, which is why I feel diversification is best here. We should continue to invest in Modern because there’s a lot of money to be made there. We just need to be careful going too deep on any one card.

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By: aregand https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57782 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 16:00:13 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57782 Sig- Everyone (except you)keeps talking about reprinting filter lands. A grand total of 4 were used in Top 16 decklists at GP Portland- 2 more than the number of painlands used. Maybe more were being used before or more are in the overall metagame but this is very low Modern numbers. Only 19 fastlands were used in Top 16 – not very many either. For comparison 72 Shocks were used.

Interestingly all of the filters were from Eventide- all are TCG low 12ish. From Modern pov filters and fastlands do not need reprints – as you stated for fastlands and the numbers confirm it.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57781 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 15:46:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57781 Sig,

I agree with your calls. As you mention the fetchlands will be reprinted (at some point), especially since they’ve all eclipsed all the shocklands in value, thus they become the biggest “cost barrier” for the mana base. It was nice to meet you in person at my LGS and nice find in their bulk bin. I actually snagged a Cadaverous Bloom and a foil Death’s Presence from there.

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By: Carl Szalich https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/06/insider-modern-staples-to-invest-in/#comment-57778 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:33:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39031#comment-57778 Nice article Sig :). Would you say that looking for modern cards with set specific keywords are the way to go moving forward?

I’m interested to know which keyword is going to be coming back in M14 / Theros… whichever keyword it is may signal the time to sell those modern cards that contain it?

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