Comments on: Insider: Another Look at Foils https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:43:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59581 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 01:09:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59581 In reply to Corbin Hosler.

Corbin,

Thanks for the comment! I had no idea that AVR was opened so much. I mean, I always thought the set would be a hit because of the casual appeal. So many Angels are sweet!

Do you have a source for this datapoint? If you have access to info on how much product hit the market, I’d be excited to learn more.

Thanks,

Sig

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59576 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 21:11:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59576 Good article as always, and I’ll touch on this. AVR was opened more than you think. In its first three months on the market, it sold better than Innistrad. Doesn’t really change anything in regards to what you said, and I agree, but just putting it out there.

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By: mirageOfHope https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59571 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:04:59 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59571 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

Yeah, there are definitely some exceptions, but I usually find that kitchen table players are more than happy to trade away foils. In my local area, I know at least one player who has Richard Garfield in their cube, and another who made a Commander deck with him as the general. I don’t really understand the appeal of Un cards and their foils, though I can see why Who What Where When Why would be cool in Cube.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59569 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:45:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59569 In reply to mirageOfHope.

Very good point here. But why do Unhinged foils get so expensive then? Surely these are only kitchen table cards, right? Maybe barring the few that are played in Cube? But you can’t tell me Foil Richard Garfield, PhD is anything but kitchen-table. Yet foils are so expensive!

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By: mirageOfHope https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59565 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:54:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59565 To really make good decisions about buying/trading for foils, it is also important to understand the difference between kitchen-table casual cards and Commander casual cards. If a foil is strictly kitchen-table, it will generally have a much smaller multiplier than a Commander foil.

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By: aregand https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59562 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:15:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59562 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

Todd Anderson used them in the Modern Goryo’s Vengeance deck and Sam Black touted them in a Modern 5- color manabase but I think they were high before then anyway. The Judge promo is the only ‘Modern’ face version.

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By: Anne van Duin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59560 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:40:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59560 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

Oh God, you mentioned foil Ponder… I remember having one when I just started out 1,5 years ago and I traded it away too! Ah, we were all noobs once… I’m happy I understand the appeal of foil cards now.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59559 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:37:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59559 In reply to aregand.

Looks like 5x – seems on par with some of the other example I cited since it does see Legacy play. At least it used to – assuming it still does once in a while in Storm or Dredge decks. I had no idea these were so expensive though – time to keep my eyes out for them!

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By: aregand https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59558 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:16:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59558 Check out Gemstone Mine multiplier

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59556 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:02:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59556 In reply to Anne van Duin.

Anne, this is an excellent build! I completely neglected to mention foil Commons/Uncommons but sometimes they are even easier to profit on. I was all over Twitter yesterday asking about foil copies of Young Pyromancer – these are selling in the $12 range right now even though it’s an M14 Uncommon! Especially when a newly printed Standard card sees Legacy play, it’s great to pick up foils on the cheap. I still regret trading away the Foil Ponder I had a couple years ago.

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By: Anne van Duin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-another-look-at-foils/#comment-59554 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:09:51 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39965#comment-59554 Although rares are super nice as foils, don’t underestimate the massive profits that can be made with playable uncs/commons. (Web)shops often underestimate the price of these gems, while on a platform like Magiccardmarket the real scarcity is more accurately represented. This can cause massive discrepancy in prices. For example, I bought out a vender of foil Sowing Salts, both versions, he only charged me 50 Eurocent per copy. These have been selling steadily for 5,50/3,50 on MKM. Also, Faithless Lootings are great, just as other playable modern sideboard cards. It always pays to do a quick search for these foils when I place an order somehwere. 🙂

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