Comments on: Insider: Drafter’s Dilemma – What Do I Do With All These Cards? Part 1 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:43:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jeremy Keane https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58855 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:03:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58855 In reply to Theodore Klotz.

Yes, also the casual crowd are the ones buying boosters and your $10 crap planeswalkers.

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By: Jeremy Keane https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58854 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:00:37 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58854 In reply to WeQu.

I have a group of 10 or so new players i know who refuse to go to drafts cos they know they won’t win and they don’t want to lose expensive cards.

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By: Theodore Klotz https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58575 Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:25:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58575 In reply to David Schumann.

Re-drafting leads to disappointed and dissatisfied customers. It rewards your hardcore competitive players and punishes your casual crowd. Limited events appeal to many casual players precisely for the fact that it puts them on a “even” field as the other players.

Rare drafting is a way for a casual player to get value from their event. If you aren’t intent on hitting the PTQ/GP circuit then you probably don’t need to obsess over perfect draft technique.

One of the biggest problems some of the readers here have is they only look through these issues through their own perspective. We are not the everyman, we are the outliers, those who obsess to the point that we grind value in our dreams.

Source: I’m an LGS Owner.

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By: Mathieu Malecot https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58474 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 03:27:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58474 i draft where i do on friday nights because we redraft rares+. this means, over time this is better than random and i don’t need to make choices of deck versus money cards.

so yeah, redrafters remember opening liliana and losing her more than winning their 5th shockland in five weeks but that is psychology.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58459 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:58:41 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58459 In reply to pi.

I’m with Pi on this one…I understand where you’re coming from Jason (and I definitely agree it makes for better draft decks), but wait till you pull the foil Voice of Resurgence and then lose it because you didn’t win the whole event…If you’re goal is to be a competitive player on the PT circuit, sure re-draft…if you’re goal is to have fun and just enjoy opening some packs than it can really suck.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58445 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:54:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58445 In reply to Jason Short.

I would probably not draft at WeQu’s place. I have picked lesser valued rares that were in my deck over considerably more expensive ones in a re-draft just to get the cards I’ve grown attached to while playing in the tournament. I have also not been able to get those cards when I happened to draft a valuable card because others would pick them before I had a chance.

In many cases I would find a better use of my time than a draft with a re-draft at the end. The disappointment just doesn’t work for me. I realize it’s not that common to run into people who feel this strongly about this, so maybe for your group re-draft is indeed the best option, but, do realize there might be some people your choice is scaring away.

I personally don’t care much for card evaluation or getting better, I’m there to have fun. My goal in playing Magic is to see my strategies work out (the more off the beaten path the better), I really don’t care whether I win or lose as long as my deck did what it was supposed to do. Not everyone has the same goals and nobody’s goals are better than others.

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By: Jason Short https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58444 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:13:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58444 In reply to David Schumann.

Re-drafting the rares is the best way to go period. Any store that doesn’t offer re-drafting of rares just doesn’t get it. The goal should be to draft the best deck, and not have to worry about passing a money card that isn’t going to be in your deck. Re-drafting of rares teaches players to evaluate cards on playability not on monetary value, which should be the goal of everyone playing magic- to get better.

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By: douglaslinn https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58441 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:46:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58441 I\’ve also had situations where people walk out with their draft deck after going 0-2, not realizing that they also took two valuable Mythics with them when they left…

For an excellent draft experience, you could get seven friends together (which is an ordeal in itself) and have one person buy a box. Then you just draft all of those cards and give them all to the person who bought the box at the end of the night. It\’s a \”free\” draft for everyone.

On topic about what to do with all those draft leftovers, be aware of what\’s sellable out of them! Remember that you can go to the new beta version of Trader Tools, here:

http://www.quietspeculation.com/tt2

And sort by SET with filters. I saw that Spike Jester, Unflinching Courage, Sin Collector and Putrefy are all buylisting for 10-25 cents. Did you know you can get 60 cents on Ghor-Clan Ravager? A quarter on Wight of Precinct Six? These things add up very quickly. It pays to ask fellow drafters if you can burgle their draft uncommons. They probably don\’t want or need Experiment Ones or Rapid Hybridization. That can add up to a tidy little buylist order every few weeks.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58440 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:52:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58440 In reply to WeQu.

I can see the sides from both camps (I’ve rare-drafted before) and played at a store that redrafts all rares at the end of the night (as the prize). Rare-drafting definitely tends to make everyone have a weaker deck, though there are plenty of “bulk rares” that don’t really count. However, I’ve also been the guy to pull the $40 mythic from a pack only to get 2nd in the draft and have someone take it from me leaving me with the second best card @15..and it doesn’t feel good.

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By: WeQu https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58438 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:59:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58438 How come rare-drafting is still so popular?

We removed the “rare-drafting” experience from our drafts completely in order to have players only concentrate on the “correct” pick.

We include the mythics/rares into the price support pool afterwards, so the better you end up in the draft, the more chance you’ll be able to pick that rare you would have rare-drafted otherwise…

Since that moment players love drafting more and more (as it doesn’t hurt to pass that Sphinx’s Revelation when you should have taken the on-color Stab Wound).

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By: maxiewawa https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/07/insider-drafters-dilemma-what-do-i-do-with-all-these-cards-part-1/#comment-58437 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:07:34 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=39339#comment-58437 Great writing, welcome to the site! Enjoyed this article much more than that Da Vinci Code rubbish you put out.

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