Comments on: Insider: Being Boring is Exciting! https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:40:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-63152 Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:39:04 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-63152 as far as cards being banned or unbanned in modern, I can very reasonably see a ban on Chord or Pod, as well as an unban on Wild Nacatl and Ancestral Vision.

There’s other cards I’d LOVE to see unbanned, and they’d be justifiable, but I just don’t see it happening.

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-63151 Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:36:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-63151 In reply to Stu Somers.

I’m not entirely sure you understand what “format warping” means if you think Deathrite Shaman isn’t.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62754 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:52:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62754 In reply to Stu Somers.

Agree with all points, just wondered if I had missed something (I somehow missed the GP announcement the other day, for instance).

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62715 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:44:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62715 In reply to Russell Blakemore.

Mental Misstep? Nope, never, impossible, not going to happen. That card is about as fair as Black Lotus.

Grave Troll is either completely unfun or does completely nothing, it isn’t coming off. Wild Nacatl SHOULD be off the list though.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62714 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:43:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62714 In reply to WeQu.

I mean, haha, yeah, I still meant 7, but we will see MMA 2 (I think in 2015), and more Commander products this year and next.

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By: WeQu https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62708 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:12:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62708 In reply to Stu Somers.

+ some non-standard sets that actually might have an effect on the prices of the cards during their Standard lives.

Imagine CMD2 or MMA2 gives us a card that combos hard with a Theros card, making it playable in Legacy.

so 9 was a good guesstimate 😉

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By: Mantis808 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62706 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:44:26 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62706 The above comment is actually me, hadn’t realised that it was pulling in an old account to post comments.

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By: Russell Blakemore https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62705 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:41:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62705 Anyone considered the fact that mental misstep might be unbanned?

Hits DRS, thoughtseize, path, bolt, all the usual suspects, it would certainly shake things up.

I can understand the warping affect in legacy, but modern is a different beast, it might even allow control decks (not combo-control) start to appear more often.

Any thoughts on this? How crazy do you think this would be?

My two other thoughts on unbans would be Golgari Grave-Troll and Wild Nactl.

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By: Christopher Almand https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62696 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 03:51:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62696 In reply to Stu Somers.

True. They may keep reprinting Thoughtseize in every subsequent set, reducing its value even further 🙂

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62641 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:17:16 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62641 In reply to Corbin Hosler.

point is still the same though, lot of cards to come to have an effect on a card’s price

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62639 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:06:23 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62639 In reply to Corbin Hosler.

Might have miscounted? Two more sets for the block, Core set in 2014, Three more sets for the block after this one, and then Core Set in 2015….so 7 other sets?

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62634 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 20:42:43 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62634 9 other sets?

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62629 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:57:31 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62629 In reply to Stu Somers.

I think you could make the arguement that it IS format warping….not just because it gives Jund a solid mana dork to ramp out spells faster in Modern, but it created the Jund archetype in Legacy as well as allowed non-green decks the ability to drop a turn 1 mana dork that also brutalizes several legacy strategies (Dredge, Re-Animator, Tin Fins, etc). It’s a really good card that is almost too universal….I’m not saying it will definitely get banned…I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62627 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:50:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62627 In reply to David Schumann.

I don’t ever see wizards banning Deathrite Shaman, it isn’t format warping type of card, it’s just a very very good card.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-being-boring-is-exciting/#comment-62619 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:16:58 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=41122#comment-62619 Good breakdown. I do believe that should Chord of Calling could get banned, GSZ will not be unbanned…I personally think Ancestral Visions could get unbanned w/o it warping the meta game as the control decks are typically more “combo/control” than true control decks. I also agree that DRS has become such a major role player in the eternal formats that I wouldn’t be surprised to see it banned, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see WoTC wait until it rotates out of standard to do so.

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