Comments on: Insider: High End Spec picks, Theros Thoughts, and Torpor Orb for life! https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:43:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Skylar Lucero https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61480 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 09:11:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61480 In reply to Stu Somers.

side board cards printed once can’t be worth money? Leyline of Sanctity :p people need to re think that for sure..

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61387 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 19:50:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61387 In reply to Jason Ruspini.

I dont really have a top X spec target list, I have like 10 cards/items that are on my radar and just focus on like 4-5 of them. That does 2 things for me: 1) It helps manage money a bit and 2) I don’t just like randomly tossing spec ideas out there that I don’t have faith in because it makes me look bad when they are wrong and I want people to make money based off of what I tell them, not lose.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61386 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 19:47:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61386 In reply to Corbin Hosler.

It has a lot to do with people’s idea that just because it is in the sideboard it shouldn’t be worth money…makes no sense to me

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By: Jason Ruspini https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61376 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 15:46:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61376 Given the potential risk/reward, it’s hard to disagree with the three Legacy B/R picks, but I dunno, I don’t think something like Mind Twist is banned because of power level.

Nothing specific to do with you, Stu, but in general I’d like to see more context in mtg finance calls. Like, are these B/R picks in your top 50 specs, top 100, etc? Is Torpor Orb a top 10? top20 spec? (By the way, Phyrexian Revoker seems like another one to target.)

Also I have a 5c glass cannon Hermit Druid deck ready that involves Unburial Rites, Demigod of Revenge, Dread, Dark Ritual, Rite of Flame, Past in Flames and Memory’s Journey.. very fragile but it’s a nice Hermit Druid build.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61349 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 07:34:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61349 In reply to Skylar Lucero.

She reminds me most of Gideon in that she creates an interesting subgame of “kill the planeswalker,” because in most cases you aren’t able to ignore her, same as Gideon. So yeah, control decks.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61348 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 07:33:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61348 Nice calls, I’m also on board with Torpor Orb, and have been for a while now. Sees way too much play to not see movement when it’s this cheap.

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By: Skylar Lucero https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61320 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 00:09:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61320 In reply to Skylar Lucero.

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By: Skylar Lucero https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61319 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 00:09:08 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61319 I completely agree with your analysis on Elspeth. Where she shines in control is getting you back on a board state where you might have been behind, where aetherling does not. She controls the board which lets you get into a position to get deeper into aetherling or even over run with 1/1 tokens. Overall I think she makes me sense at a price between $10-15, definitely not $25+. Thanks for the content.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61317 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 23:50:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61317 In reply to Stu Somers.

This also sells me on Orb over Cage as well. Thanks for the adds.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61310 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 21:41:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61310 In reply to QED2.

Its basically nothing at this point in Modern

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61307 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 20:36:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61307 In reply to Stu Somers.

Torpor Orb is also a house in EDH…especially against green decks

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By: QED2 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61302 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:50:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61302 In reply to Stu Somers.

grafdigger’s cage has the advantage of being Trinket Mage-able, which is not nothing

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61297 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:05:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61297 In reply to Forrest Rettig.

From what I have learned, these sets are all of the extra sets Hasbro was going to sell on their website, but canceled people’s orders who tried to order too many, so instead of a relisting, they choose this option

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61295 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:04:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61295 In reply to LotusEater.

Yep, that makes me want to do Torpor Orb even more

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By: LotusEater https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61294 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:02:43 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61294 I just wanted to point out that Grafdigger’s Cage shuts off Snapcaster Mage, but not Scavenging Ooze or Deathrite Shaman; you might have been confusing it with Ground Seal.

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By: Forrest Rettig https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61289 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 17:54:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61289 The SDCC sets are going to be given out at some grand prix side events later this year. They will still probably go up, but not as quick as other limited promos.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61286 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 17:10:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61286 In reply to David Heilker.

I have tweeted about Earthcraft in the past, but the 3 I picked I wanted 3 super-cheap picks and purposely left Earthcraft off.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61285 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 17:07:22 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61285 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

I don’t think Grafdigger is going to be as played. Yeah, it turns off Ooze and Deathrite and Snapcaster, but I think the decks those are in right now are either A)Too hard to meta correctly and may occasionally spike a tourney but not be consistent or B) there are better decks.

Torpor Orb hits 2 of the most important decks in the format in Pod and Twin and can still hit Snapcaster Mage.

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By: Stu Somers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61284 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 17:02:59 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61284 In reply to David Schumann.

Hermit druid I think is so low, and the potential is so high, it has been the same price forever so I don’t think you can ever lose and winning would be insane.

You might be right on Thoughtseize, but I am like 60-40 it will stay higher than Ooze.

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By: David Heilker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2013/09/insider-high-end-spec-picks-theros-thoughts-and-torpor-orb-for-life/#comment-61282 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:35:41 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=40571#comment-61282 Is Earthcraft not a card with a higher potential for unbanning than Vise or Hermit Druid?

I guess EC is much more expensive to start, but black vise just… come on, that card’s not getting unbanned. Mind twist, in my estimation, is the only one of those cards with high potential to come off the list, and earthcraft is at least equal in that likelihood. the limited number of earthcrafts (by comparison to MT) make it a much better speculation candidate, in my mind.

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