Comments on: Insider: [MTGO] Exploring Investment on Magic Online

By: thoughtlaced

thoughtlaced — Sat, 11 Jan 2014 18:00:06 +0000

Really great to see another mtgo contributer. Matt’s work has been excellent but QS has been otherwise slow on the mtgo front. Look forward to reading your future articles, Sylvain!

By: maxiewawa

maxiewawa — Thu, 09 Jan 2014 01:53:45 +0000

In reply to Sylvain lehoux.

Hmmm…. this sounds like a business opportunity for our friends in Les Etas Unis… I’m in Australia so redemption is expensive for me too.

By: Jim Jen

Jim Jen — Wed, 08 Jan 2014 06:34:34 +0000

I never trade cards on MTGO before, but this article really make me want to start to try. Thanks for all the advises!

By: Sylvain lehoux

Sylvain lehoux — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:13:32 +0000

In reply to Trevor Holmes.

Thanks for reading!

Sadly I won’t talk about bots, I was not the one mentioning that. I don’t own any, and I don’t have any expertise in this area.

Sometimes I think that a bot could be useful but I would use it only for targeted cards and not as a “regular” bot that buys everything (or a specific class of cards).

If I had one I would use it to try to buy target specs and to sell specific cards when the time has come. I have no idea how viable is this. Would people come to sell or buy only 20 difference cards?

I just know that having a bot around 24/7 would probably help collect and sell, not only more cards, but at better prices.

By: Sylvain lehoux

Sylvain lehoux — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:07:11 +0000

In reply to Boosterdraft_nl.

Thanks for reading.

I’ll talk more for sure about that when I’ll write about how to invert tix to cash.
As you said, I think being based in Europe almost prohibit redemption as an exit for tix.

However I came to a middle solution. To be short, I tried to sell the complete set as MTGO set, and not physical cards. It’s a rather slow process, I sold 2 sets in 1 month.
I was looking to sell tix at a better rate than 0.95$/tix, and that’s clearly what happen, but 2 sets a month is too slow to be a money maker by itself.

I think the best is being in the US (or at least paying the US shipping fees) and having LGSs that you can sell to.

By: Matthew Lewis

Matthew Lewis — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 15:42:07 +0000

Going over the 3 types of investments is great and I think everyone should take note of this recommendation, “(cyclical investments) should form the core of your portfolio”. I can’t agree more with that recommendation.

As for #2, Speculative, it’s a lot trickier, more akin to gambling, but it can be very fun, especially when you get one right.

And the 3rd type, as you point out, can be hard to leverage with a lot of tix as the market can be very thin on hot cards. Like Zur, I would have bought about 50 copies, but I could only find about 20 before prices started moving.

I look forward to more of your work Sylvain!

By: Trevor Holmes

Trevor Holmes — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:30:22 +0000

Great article, I’ve been looking forward to it since I read your intro on the forum topic about botting. When do you think you’ll have a botting article up? I just started one and things are going slow for me, I don’t know if my issues are technical or strategic.

By: Blake

Blake — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 13:07:13 +0000

Awesome – looking forward to your series of articles – props to QS for getting another MTGO article series going! 🙂

By: Boosterdraft_nl

Boosterdraft_nl — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 11:30:40 +0000

Hi Sylvain,

I am looking forward to the Set Redemption article! Some years ago I tried to make a profit buying complete MTGO sets, redeeming them for paper, and then selling the paper cards separately. But it took a lot of time/effort and there where a lot of (hidden) costs, so at the end of the day (being based in Europe) I could have better taken the 2% interest on a savings account.