Comments on: Insider: Born of the Gods Prerelease Primer https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:37:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: samuel Burton https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-80202 Sun, 02 Feb 2014 19:05:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-80202 I’ve been testing on magic league with BIG for about a week now and I have played against so many Courser decks. From jund to bant to G/W or U/G.

I definitely feel like that card will be seeing an 8-10 dollar mark.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79908 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:31:36 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79908 In reply to nylarotep.

I mean, how is that different from Verdict into anything else that Esper already has, like Jace? I don’t think the Planeswalker is complete jank or Ral Zarek here, but I do think it’s coming down in price when I look back at this set three months from now. Unless Maze’s End is just insane or whatever.

I’ll say this, if you do think Bant is the way to go, I believe something like Zegana could be poised to benefit.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79907 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:29:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79907 In reply to 415raechill.

It’s really up to you, because I think they’re going to be about the same price in three months. If you are someone who does well having these sort of things in your binder, I think you’re safe picking them up. If you don’t want lands, you’re safe trading them away. It’s really up to you, and I doubt there will be much movement on any of them (besides *maybe* up for the UW one).

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79906 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:26:59 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79906 In reply to Michael Beichner.

Yeah, that’s true, but is that actually powerful enough to really do anything in Standard right now? If so, I’m looking at Zegana as a beneficiary, but I have a hard time believing that’s good enough to make it right now.

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By: Corbin Hosler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79905 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:26:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79905 In reply to David Schumann.

Yup, my thoughts as well. It’s just not an all-star in Commander, and the price is going to reflect that. Compare to lantern, which is already moving up from where you’d “expect” it to be.

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By: 415raechill https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79894 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:14:46 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79894 So when you say the price is right for Temples, that means we should be trading them out or selling, right?

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By: theboozecube https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79887 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:56:55 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79887 I agree on the whole with your analysis. However, there are some possible upsides to Cornucopia that might make it better in EDH than you give it credit for:

(1) It scales. While 6 is a lot for something that taps for 2, it’s still not unreasonable in EDH. I see it having a home in artifact decks that run a lot of mana rocks that tap for multiple colorless.

(2) CMC = 0. This is the only mana rock that taps for any color and doesn’t have “Mox” in it’s name. This makes it a relevant Trinket Mage/Artificer’s Intuition target.

(3) It uses charge counters. This means it interacts with Gilder Bairn, proliferate, Vorel, and other counter-manipulation cards.

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By: Michael Beichner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79881 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:15:34 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79881 Kiora + courser = on curve bff’s.

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By: nylarotep https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79880 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:13:04 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79880 In reply to qed2.

I agree, in a bant shell, Verdict then this forces means the opponent needs to drop multiple threats (and possibly overextend in another Verdict or D Sphere) or draw into a removal spell or they’ll eventually end up dead to Kraken tokens.

Also, disagree on Herald seeing play in mono-B. The extra point of power and the ability to kill opposing Specters is not better than the extra point of devotion and potential card advantage that Specter provides and at 5 mana, I would rather just cast Gary instead of bestowing this. You likely won’t be able to run both, as spots in the deck are tight enough as is.

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By: qed2 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79877 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:10:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79877 I think you’re wrong on Kiora.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-born-of-the-gods-prerelease-primer/#comment-79875 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:51:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=43426#comment-79875 I think you’re analysis is dead on Corbin. The only statement I wanted to bring up was that Astral Cornocopia is NOWHERE near as good as Chromatic Lantern (which turns all your lands into rainbow lands)…Cornocopia is just Everflowing Chalice with multikicker 3 that allows you to tap for colored mana….dumping 3 mana to get 1 of any color puts it on par with darksteel ingot (except it’s not indestructible) dumping 6 mana gets you 2 of any one color…making it worse than gilded lotus…9 mana puts it on par with gilded lotus. The only decks I can see really enjoying/abusing this card…are ones that use a lot of proliferate affects.

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