Comments on: Insider: Spotting Fakes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 06 Aug 2021 16:47:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Teresa Realing https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-2115752 Fri, 06 Aug 2021 16:47:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-2115752 Hi I have a question. I am currently selling my husband’s Beta collection on my eBay store and I have listed a Beta Forest set. We have noticed that some of the cards do not have the two dots at the bottom and some do and some only have 1 dot, also the color lightness varies on them. My husband bought all of these cards from packs over 20 years ago so he KNOWS they are not fakes. He has never bought beta lands on the open market. I recently had a customer question the cards because of the lack of dots and the brightness of the card. How can I assure people these are legit.

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By: WalterWK https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-2085561 Wed, 24 Mar 2021 10:32:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-2085561 Just curious, but is it a coincidence that the cards C&A spell MonoPoly?

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By: Jobe Olson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-2074993 Wed, 27 Jan 2021 02:09:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-2074993 The best way I’ve found that’s super simple without ruining the card is look at the back of the card in the blue section of the word “Magic” real cards will have hash lines where the printer hit it. Fake ones will not have these lines.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-1819551 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 14:33:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-1819551 In reply to pi.

I mentioned Marker’s Volcanic Island in a discussion on the Beta dots on the FB Misprints and Oddities group and this eventually led to a thorough check of Marker’s card. His card unfortunately turned out to be an altered Unlimited copy.

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By: Are all your items in stock? https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-455212 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:46:49 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-455212 Jonathan Walters (Stoke City) wins a free kick in the defensive half.

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By: Log In https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-455200 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:45:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-455200 Critics of the law call it the ‘Shoot First’ doctrine.There was no confession (although George Zimmerman never denied he was the one who shot Trayvon Martin),”A drug that was legal to possess yesterday, or have become more widely used in recent years.500000. Kc————–Vs.NSO conductor Peter Gardner on? who died of ALS in late January”I haven’t seen that amount of fish or the size of the fish that we encountered this spring in well it’s over 20 years”—Fisheries scientist? but he’s a lot shorter.AAPTopics:,,Scott.

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By: Dark Cloud https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-324634 Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:11:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-324634 Scared Foundry? Yeah, that would stand out as a fake.

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By: Planetes Longchamp Price In Paris https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-181576 Wed, 01 Oct 2014 18:34:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-181576 Wonderful learn, I simply handed this onto a colleague who was doing some research on that. And he actually purchased me lunch because I discovered it for him smile So let me rephrase that: Thanks for lunch! Anyway, in my language, there should not much good source like this.

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By: Patrick Rodgers https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-87863 Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:53:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-87863 We’re currently talking with printers in China about getting some tokens made for our shop. One of the vendors sent me this just yesterday. Apparently the 55-card fake decks are alive and well.

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For the ​ MTG cards , not originl cards. rare cards

​ US$25 for a deck, 55 cards in a deck,

4 decks at least. US$150 for 4 decks including freight by DHL to USA

please let me know, if you want to buy,

LEO

the list:

1-Arid Mesa

2-Jace the mind sculptor

3-Tropical Island

4-Temple Garden

5-Stomping Ground

6-Overgrown Tomb

7-Scared Foundry

8-Breeding Pool

9-Misty Rainforst

10-Celestial Colonnade

11-Flooded Strand

12-jace architect of thought

13-Wasteland

14-Inkmoth Nexus

15-Elspeth Sun’s Champion

16-Tarmogoyf

17-Scalding Tarn

18-Hallowed Fountain

19-Polluted Delta

20-Sol Ring

21-Underground sea

22-Maesh Flats

23-Reflecting Pool

24-Mutavault

25-Wooded Foothills

26-Windswept Health

27-Watery Grave

28-Godless Shrine

29-Savannah

30-Blood Crypt

31-Verdant Catacombs

32-Swords to Plowshares

33-Chalice of the Void

34-sword of war and peace

35-sword of fire and ice

36-demonic tutor

37-elspeth knight-errant

38-thoughtseize

39-pernicious deed

40-sword of feast and famine

41-goblin lackey

42-goblin pilcdriver

43-engineered explosives

44-lona shild of emeria

45-stoneforge mystic

46-karn liberated

47-tundra

48-Vampiric Tutor

49-Snapcaster Mage

50-Academy Ruins

51-Batterskull

52-Forcc of Will

53-Intuition

54-Sphinx’s Revelation

55-Rcanimatc

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-87832 Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:02:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-87832 In reply to pi.

(It was taken from Apathy House’s guide for detecting fakes).

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-87831 Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:00:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-87831 In reply to Themise.

I wish I could show off my skills here, but I simply went to the page he got the images from and it literally says “The one on the left is real, the one on the right is fake.”.

If you can, compare to a copy of the same card from the same set or otherwise try to get as close as possible (same set, color and card type perhaps). While you might see differences between sets within a set the results should be comparable.

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By: Themise https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-84798 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 22:29:04 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-84798 In reply to pi.

About the light test: how do you figure the right one in the picture is fake?

I’ve tested with several cards and some show a sort of “muddy” shadow (reminiscent of the left card in the picture above), while others look smoother (more similar to the right one). Other than that they let about as much light through. This seems random, but newer cards mostly have the more “muddy” shadow. I figured it’s just an insignificant printing difference. I don’t know if that’s what you’re talking about, can you explain your reasoning?

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By: Chris Springer https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-84347 Mon, 03 Mar 2014 20:04:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-84347 Just got a fake in the mail today that I bought on Ebay. Glossy coat when you look at it from the side, Flimsy feeling, blurred text, thicker black border, and the side of the card where it is glued together doesn’t match that of a typical card.

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By: kakwann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77921 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 01:28:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77921 In reply to Brandon Jacques.

ya “some reasearch”…

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By: Brandon Jacques https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77708 Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:33:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77708 Does anyone have a direct link to this “55 card set” being sold? I would like to do some more research.

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By: LotusEater https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77693 Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:37:18 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77693 In reply to Kazabet.

They are unlikely to hold up well, and here’s why:

The dot pattern you see is a moire pattern, and is a result of the offset printing press process. There are four different colors of ink that are printed out as a set of halftone dots (a “dot screen”), and each screen is at a different angle. The interference pattern created by the overlaying of these differently angled screens is the moire pattern.

When someone wants to produce a counterfeit card using an offset press, they are not going to have access to the original artwork that Wizards used to print the card, so they are going to have to scan a card. That scan will not have the same amount and quality of image data as the original art scan, and will likely need to be blurred to eliminate the original moire pattern in order to have an image that can be used to create a new halftone screen for the counterfeit. You can see this on the Ancestral Recall in the article. This means that close examination of the card’s art will likely always reveal some telltale differences, even if the rest of the layout gets more sophisticated.

Theoretically, someone could do a very high resolution scan of a card and reverse engineer the CMYK and text K plates of a Magic card, and then print an exact-enough dupe on a printing press, but it would be an awful lot of work and would probably still have some kind of telltale visual flaw or fail to pass another test.

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By: myrkkrym https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77411 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:10:52 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77411 Just a quick note: Looking for obviously miscolored backs will also turn up every Alternate 4th card you own as a fake. The “A” in the Magic logo on the back of Alternate 4th is darkest in the upper right corner, as opposed to every other card where there’s a light spot in the upper right.

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By: mythin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77388 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:14:24 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77388 I just got this email from one of the chinese vendors:

“Dear customer,

I am Sorry, our company was stopped by the police, so we can’t do MTG cards business no!

pls don’t response here to make the e-mail box full.

Thanks
Delson”

So hopefully the gig is up for them, for now, but I highly doubt it will stop them for long.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77380 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:34:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77380 In reply to WeQu.

Surprisingly you can still read English card text with it :P.

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By: WeQu https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/01/insider-spotting-fakes/#comment-77360 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:40:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=42773#comment-77360 In reply to pi.

o_O That loupe is chinese! 😛

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