Comments on: Insider: Khans of Tarkir Set Review – The Jeskai Way and Blue https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:31:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-176255 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 09:14:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-176255 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

I was by no means advocating it as a spec, just saying that I believe it will be quite good in Standard.

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By: Stu https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-175682 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:04:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-175682 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

Mantis Rider is underwhelming in a world full of Lightning Strikes and Stoke the Flames

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-175674 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:47:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-175674 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

I believe most people agree with you on this one. I am in the minority it seems. Time will tell…even if it is good, it’s only good in the Jeskai deck and that likely limits value potential.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-175673 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:46:32 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-175673 In reply to Kris Thomas.

Great add! Stubborn Denial seems strong in decks with Tarmogoyf especially!

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-175672 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:45:17 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-175672 In reply to phyrexian trader.

It appears you are right. Lots of pushback on Mantis. I may be overlooking something here – time will tell I suppose. Either way, it’s pre-selling at $2 so I don’t think people are expecting this to break the format by any means. Jeskai still has to be a strong deck in order for Mantis to shine because it won’t likely see play in many other decks.

Thanks for the comment!

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By: phyrexian trader https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-174985 Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:19:12 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-174985 1. I have to agree that the jeskai theme is a little bit awkward. But I’m confident that WOTC tested it and made it playable after all. But I had the same thought about cipher, so we’ll just see how it turns out.
2. Every article about new standard decks includes the mantis in all jeskai decks. Even the control decks with only 1 creature. Not only that, it’s lightning angel but cheaper. And lightning angel made the UWR decks possible each time it was standard legal.
it’s always possible that the meta doesn’t allow it to shine (3 or 4 toughness is a huge difference for burn spells). But a 3/3 flying, haste, vigilance creature is really good for only 3 mana. My feeling is that you are the only one who doesn’t like the Mantis.

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By: Jacob Wells https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-174601 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:09:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-174601 I have to disagree with almost this entire article– Jeskai seems to be the sleeper faction of the entire set.

To the “I don’t get the reliance on creatures and noncreatures at the same time”:
As far as this, Prowess seems to be the exact thing missing from the heroic deck. Casting your Heroic Enablers wIth the Ascendancy or Prowess creatures out seems rediculously strong. A control deck using the smaller guys with Prowess to win combat steps or countering then deterring an attack seems right up this faction’s alley. They seem to want to be an aggro-control style deck, and they will be good at that style.

Jeskai Ascendancy is probably the leader for “Broken stuff in standard”. Convoke is an on-color mechanic for Jeskai, and with the Ascendancy out, Convoke spells are “free”. Aside from the obvious like Stoke the Flames, Obelisk of Urd can be free. Chief Engineer gets hilariously broken… so on and so forth. May be a bit magical christmas land, but it could happen.

Narset snowballs like crazy. I’ve seen a lot of dreaming with her and generator servamt, but honestly, She’s control for days. Her ability triggers before blockers are declared, so you can grab enough damage or bounce with her to remove any blockers or at least first strike them out off of one of the spells. She wont be a midrange card, but she cleans up in control very well.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-174290 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:49:54 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-174290 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

A four power haste flier for 3 would invalidate a lot of decks. I guarantee that this card is leagues better than Thoctar. I mean, just look how effectively it completely blanks Xenagos. I think the card is very good.

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By: Kris Thomas https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-174210 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:28:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-174210 Stubborn Denial looks interesting to replace Spell Snare as someone noted on the forums.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-174146 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:09:18 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-174146 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

I would want more power, personally. It just feels like a 3/3 could be outclassed very quickly. Should be able to get 4 or even 5 power at 3 different colored mana. See: Woolly Thoctar, Doran, the Siege Tower.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2014/09/insider-khans-of-tarkir-set-review-the-jeskai-way-and-blue/#comment-173835 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:27:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=51558#comment-173835 If you don’t like Mantis Rider, what are you actually looking for in a three drop?

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