Overturf wrote a full paragraph explaining why he thinks Gitaxian Probe is overplayed. If you want to engage his points in debate, that’s fine, but he already absolved himself of any burden of proof.

Thanks for the comment! There are absolutely combo decks that I really like G Probe in. Notably, William Jensen cut it from his Sneak and Show list, so it really might ultimately come down to experience.

I didn’t just blindly say it was overplayed though. I presented an argument, which you have yet to address outside of the fact that you disagree with the conclusion.

Perhaps, but when someone out of hand dismisses a card which is as ubiquitous as Gitaxian Probe, the burden of proof is squarely on them, not me.

From Gerry’s article today @ SCG (he’s specifically talking about FOW, but the point remains):

“… If lowering your curve to mostly one casting cost spells is the way to win blue mirrors, then zero casting cost spells become even better, no matter what the additional cost is.”

“Even if you disagree with my arguments, they are still better than assertions”

I get the impression that every competitive Eternal player thinks they have the format completely solved. Just because you disagree with somebody on one point doesn’t mean they don’t know what they’re talking about or can’t give you better insight. Even if you do have a better answer, constructive discussion can help you better understand why your opinion is superior. If you believe that the statement “UR Delver is not a burn deck” to be patently false, it should be easy to explain why, and that is infinitely more useful than just dismissing someone on their perceived lack of experience.

There are plenty for cards that replace themselves virtually for free that aren’t played heavily in Legacy and nobody is talking about them. I also have had no problem fueling Delve without playing spells that make myself worse against red decks and creature decks.

If a tempo deck with a handful of burn spells falls into your definition of “burn decks” then we disagree there. More importantly, it is useless to make that comment with out addressing my other points that follow they thought. If it is a burn deck, why no goblin guide? Why do we card about counterspells? Even if you disagree with my arguments, they are still better than assertions.

Did you read any of my explanations? I clearly state that I don’t see Rest in Peace as a good plan against Treasure Cruise and Cruise alone. It’s even states as such as it is listed as a list item. I do not advocate nor does the article state that people shouldn’t have access to graveyard hate, merely that many are boarding it incorrectly.

As for Probe, you’re going to need to expound on that.

Also, saying that UR delver is *not* a glorified burn deck is patently false, and leads me to believe that you may not have a lot of experience with either deck.