Comments on: Insider: The Impossible Science of Evaluating Cards in a Vacuum – How to Have a Responsible Spoiler Season https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:29:16 +0000 hourly 1 By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-341163 Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:39:29 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-341163 In reply to Felix Robles.

I’ll be honest, this never showed up on my radar so I’m guessing it didn’t have too large an impact on the price.

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By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-341162 Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:38:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-341162 In reply to pi.

Agreed, in lots of turbo lands style decks along with the standard tezzerator deck.

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By: Felix Robles https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-340894 Thu, 08 Jan 2015 08:08:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-340894 Temporal mastery saw play in wolfrun blue decks. It was basically a ramp/draw spell early on that took extra turn late game.

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By: Russell Lilly https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-338774 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 23:30:28 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-338774 In reply to Derek Madlem.

Can’t really afford to make mistakes like that for the prices this site charges, Derek. When I’m paying over a hundred dollars a year to read your words, I expect that they are not only accurate and insightful in terms of subject matter, but also grammatically correct. Your fellow authors don’t seem to have this problem, at least on the finance side (I don’t read the strategy articles), and I have previously noticed grammatical errors in your articles–although they’ve certainly gotten better over the past few months. Also, you seem rather defensive about this, so I have to assume that it’s been brought to your attention before now (unless this is a case of tone not carrying over in a written format, although I can sense a lot of sarcasm in the words “…grammar aficionados such as yourself savor pointing out,” so I’m guessing that I’ve got a good impression of your overall tone).

In any case, I appreciate your writing, and that of the rest of the finance authors here on QS, but when we in the service industry receive critical feedback from our customers, it often comes right before they vote with their wallets–although, the OP seemed very friendly and not at all threatening in his comment.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-338735 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 22:50:48 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-338735 Time Warp saw pretty decent Standard play its first time around.

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By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-337149 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:53:02 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-337149 In reply to Jamie Flez.

My first thought was Huntmaster, he also appeared in a middle small set and was completely underestimated at first.

I 100% expect Brian Kibler to be playing this card at Pro Tour Fate Reforged

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-337133 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:40:30 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-337133 In reply to k_omega.

I hadn’t realized we have a 2nd, free editor. I should start placing grammatical/spelling errors into every article to see if he or she finds them 🙂

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By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-337098 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:04:07 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-337098 In reply to k_omega.

You’ll have to talk with my editor on that one; surely he changed it to something completely incorrect as I would NEVER make the their / they’re mistake that grammar aficionados such as yourself savor pointing out.

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By: k_omega https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-337004 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 19:33:20 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-337004 “…exclusive spoiler is forced to praise whatever turd their given”

Friendly observation: the word you’re looking for is “they’re”.

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By: Jamie Flez https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-the-impossible-science-of-evaluating-cards-in-a-vacuum-how-to-have-a-responsible-spoiler-season/#comment-336967 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:56:40 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55308#comment-336967 Whisperwood Elemental! The comparison I draw is to Master of the Wild Hunt, but you trade the removal aspect for mass-removal-insurance and the wolves can become cooler things.

My first question is to ask “what decks does this fit into?” I’m certain this doesn’t have a home in grindier Abzan Midrange decks – turning your game-winning planeswalkers and versatile removal spells into 2/2s seems less than ideal. The aggro Abzan decks could jam this – the “wolves” turning into Fleecemane Lions or surprise 4/5-tramples feels like a winning proposition. The issue is that 5 mana competes with Wingmate Roc.

Gruul and Temur decks experience something similar – lots of dudes, so you can often manifest into sweet things, but you’re still competing with smashier [I’m avoiding saying “better” or “worse” during a card analysis, on principle] 5-drops in Sarkhan and Stormbreath Dragon. However, across the board, Gruul/Temur decks benefit way more from manifesting sweet dudes face-up due to the general lack of comes-into-play effects. If this is seeing play, I believe I found the existing archetypes this slots into.

Second question: does this fit into any new archetypes?

…*shrug* We don’t have enough info yet.

Third, and final, question: do EDH players want this? I’d say “potentially.” Someone who’s more in touch with the EDH scene can offer better insight.

All said, I see this being a solid card in Standard, but not seeing play as more than a 2-of unless Wraths suddenly become much more prevalent. I’d put it in the $3-6 range once the dust settles due to some small demand in certain flavors of green.

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