Comments on: Insider: Zugzwang – Identifying When All Possible Moves in Finance Are Ill-Advised https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:29:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: kasey https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-355592 Thu, 15 Jan 2015 14:24:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-355592 i’m hoping they just ban blue. the whole blue.

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By: parisite https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-352276 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 06:42:01 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-352276 In reply to Kelly Reid.

Siege Rhino is the reason for Pods success…to the point most have taken the combo cards out of POD entirely…Pod has been a staple of modern for a long time…thr Rhino is the game changer.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-351508 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 21:23:10 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-351508 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

Agreed….GGT on the banned list shows a complete lack of understanding of what makes the Legacy dredge deck work. Without a sac outlet that can be cast from the graveyard (Dread Return and Cabal Therapy) the deck simply can NOT function anywhere near as efficiently as the legacy version. Hell I don’t even think unbanning Dread Return would make Modern dredge anything but a tier 1.5-2 deck because so many of the good card draw spells are also not modern legal (breakthrough, cephalid coliseum, and careful study) and they would still lack cabal therapy which is often critical in helping dredge reach the 3 creature minimum necessary to actually flashback dread return.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-351391 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:48:42 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-351391 Grave Troll is my go to example of why the Modern ban list is comical.

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By: Waffleophagus https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-351196 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:42:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-351196 In reply to Kelly Reid.

Don’t you dare speak that heresy!

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By: Justin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-351116 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 16:51:09 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-351116 In reply to Sigmund Ausfresser.

I would like to see Earthcraft, Mind Twist, and Worldgorger Dragon all come off the Legacy ban list, but my guess is we get a boring “no changes” announcement again.

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By: Kelly Reid https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-351084 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 16:33:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-351084 Ban Pod. That card is ridiculous.

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By: Sigmund Ausfresser https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-351056 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 16:13:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-351056 I agree with Jason that Modern will likely see no changes. I won’t argue what’s diverse and what isn’t. I’ll just leave my prediction out there.

I would LOVE to see a Legacy unbanning. Unban Mind Twist! Let’s see what Hermit Druid does in Legacy! There could be a few interesting impacts to making such changes, and if the impact is severely negative WOTC can just do a re-banning. Just my 2 cents.

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By: Kurt Fruth https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/01/insider-zugzwang-identifying-when-all-possible-moves-in-finance-are-ill-advised/#comment-350769 Tue, 13 Jan 2015 12:11:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=55796#comment-350769 I don’t necessarily agree that the Modern metagame is diverse. Sure, the top 8 looked diverse, but the top 16 and top 32 were pod and delver over and over.

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