Comments on: Insider: Are the Rares Enough to Save Tarkir? https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:26:56 +0000 hourly 1 By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-447627 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 01:00:38 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-447627 In reply to pi.

Thank you, all but forgot about this card!

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By: Ken Roth https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-445657 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:49:03 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-445657 In reply to pi.

Funeral Charm was indeed! And it was how decks like the Car Wreck would soft lock the game, by making the opponent discard their newly drawn card before it would be used, unless it were an instant.

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By: pi https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-445448 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:41:56 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-445448 Funeral Charm was the first to offer instant speed discard.

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By: TargetAcquired https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-445373 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:34:41 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-445373 I disagree with your evaluation of Atarka’s Command. The players can’t gain life this turn is super relevant…Stops seige rhino, stops players getting out of burn reach via whip, 3 damage that can’t be redirected is relevant. The rest of the set does indeed look like a turd. Want Narset and Sarkhan but not going to be buying boxes for them.

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By: Mats Karlsson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-445067 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:42:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-445067 On the Ojutai’s Command I really like the first option with Soulfire Grand Master. You can have him as chump blocker early on to gain life and late game you’ll have the mana to make full use of him, putting him into play again after a sweeper and overwhelm with card advantage.

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By: Mats Karlsson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-445061 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 10:36:36 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-445061 In reply to Enyeto.

You only listed 3 cmc creatures. Fleecemane Lion, Rakasha Deathdealer are certainly main deck creatures, not to mention Sylvan Caryatid.

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By: QED2 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444741 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 03:14:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444741 In reply to Derek Madlem.

FWIW I share my camp with Chapin, who says this is a game-changer of a third set

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By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444691 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 02:06:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444691 In reply to David Schumann.

I too love cracking packs and I just can’t justify wading into this set.

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By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444689 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 02:04:06 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444689 In reply to QED2.

There is often an equilibrium where prices will rise to create a supply, but that’s going to be hard for this set to accomplish organically with Modern Masters II and Magic Origins on the horizon sparking people’s interests.

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By: Derek Madlem https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444688 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 02:02:47 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444688 In reply to Enyeto.

It doesn’t have any good targets right now, which is why I started off by saying the price is going to go down, but it will be legal for 18 months … that’s over 800 cards to make it relevant, so it’s only a matter of time.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444527 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:41:44 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444527 In reply to Enyeto.

mainly Ugin and Monestary Mentor…both of those I actually feel have potential in eternal formats (though Mentor hasn’t proven itself in modern yet)…this set I don’t see much…and the few cards I do like..are rares I can trade for without any issue and aren’t likely to be 4 of’s in any deck.

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By: Enyeto https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444474 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:23:25 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444474 In reply to David Schumann.

With FRF devaluing as a set, what targets are you looking to receive traction cracking a box?

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By: Enyeto https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444471 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:18:35 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444471 I like Collected Company as an Instant. But for standard, the only really decent targets I can see are Courser of Kruphix, Anafenza, the Foremost, and Reclamation Sage. That’s really all I can effectively see it being worth right now. So… 2 cards that don’t see usual main deck and a format stabilizer.

Perhaps if B/W warriors makes an appearance, this will be the only card splashed in the deck with green, making side boarding difficult.

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By: QED2 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444467 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:07:19 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444467 I suspect you and everyone else are wildly off base on this set’s value, and have begun to implement that belief in my IRL trades…but, it is a very risky proposition so I’m hesitant to jump in with both feet.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/03/insider-are-the-rares-enough-to-save-tarkir/#comment-444286 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 16:00:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=58341#comment-444286 I fully agree with your assessment of the set…I had originally planned to buy a box or two simply because cracking packs is fun….but I honestly think I’m better off cracking FRF (since it’ll likely get opened even less now). I think the play on this set is to create a buylist of the cards you want instead of cracking packs and simply buying the singles you feel have potential.

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