Comments on: Insider: Modern Grixis Delver Updates https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:25:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-702475 Fri, 08 May 2015 13:26:00 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-702475 In reply to phyrexiantrader.

Did you miss the Delvers? I’m not a control deck.

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By: phyrexiantrader https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-702350 Fri, 08 May 2015 12:59:31 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-702350 In reply to Ryan Overturf.

recall is good if you’re racing affinity (like merfolk does). in control, bouncing everything is not helping that much. I rarely have the feeling recall is breaking me. vandalblast breaks me.

Indeed, racing with etched champion goes faster with signal pest, master of etherium, cranial plating and/or arcbound ravager, but if you’re wasting all sources to answer these cards, I have time for the slow race. You can’t put much danger in play if you spend resources on holding off the other cards.
Don’t forget you’re taking much damage yourself from land + early race from affinity.

Don’t forget we have sideboard too ;). currently I play 4 spell pierce after side.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-702040 Fri, 08 May 2015 11:48:43 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-702040 In reply to Mike Lanigan.

I’ve been toying with the idea of cutting Delver, and if I did that I’d run Tar Pit. Coming into play tapped is VERY bad for this deck, though Tar Pit is great in controlling versions of Grixis.

The deck plays plenty of threats, and has a great burn plan. I’ve even been boarding Delver out against matchups like Burn, and it’s not a problem. I believe that you’re underestimating the value that Kolaghan’s Command adds in the threat department. It’s also very Relevant that only a handful of removal spells can kill Tasigur in the first place.

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By: Ryan Overturf https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-702024 Fri, 08 May 2015 11:46:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-702024 In reply to phyrexiantrader.

I played a sideboard Hurkyl’s Recall when I played Izzet (with and without T. Cruise) and played better than Vandalblast and also played better with Snapcaster Mage. It was only a one-of for that one matchup, and even when I didn’t draw it the matchup felt positive. I figured since Kolaghan’s Command is so great against Affinity that I don’t need the Recall anymore.

Champion, even when enabled, sucks if you don’t have a plating or Ravager to go with it. With Spell Snares and Snapcasters, it’s not hard to keep that on lock.

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By: Hayden https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-701935 Fri, 08 May 2015 11:29:39 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-701935 Great article. I ran Grixis delver at the modern states. Both SCG and TCG. I scrubbed out of the main tourneys but did manage to win a few win a boxes with this. I had command in my build and it is just amazing vs affinity/robots and that random 8 rack deck. Having main deck artifact kill is just great. I also dropped the pyro but not the probe. I went with the zombie fish and put in 4 angler. Probe just helps fuel that delve and I always want to know what my opp has in hand. Also muderous cut is great in it. As previous poster stated yeah you want that one of vandal blast. It’s to good vs robots not to include it.

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By: Mike Lanigan https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-701860 Fri, 08 May 2015 11:17:50 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-701860 I used to play this deck a ton a while back. One key component to the deck was always the Creeping Tar Pits. I think I played three and they were always an important factor to winning games. Additionally, be careful that you’re playing enough threats. It seems like if your opponent has a couple removal spells that you will fold to not being able to close the game.

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By: phyrexiantrader https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/insider-modern-grixis-delver-updates/#comment-701387 Fri, 08 May 2015 09:40:33 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=59791#comment-701387 lost to this deck yesterday in a daily, SB had the card he could overload to kill all my artifacts.

I should kill him before turn 5, but the other removal spells made that difficult. And it’s his only answer against my etched champion.

So if you want to win against affinity, I would play that card in SB for sure.

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