Comments on: Introducing Abzan Collected Company https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 19 May 2015 20:04:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120831 Tue, 19 May 2015 20:04:36 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120831 In reply to BeardBard.

What’s the Twin match up like?

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120830 Tue, 19 May 2015 16:31:58 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120830 I find it very apropos that a deck built around creatures refusing to die has risen again from what looked like certain death. I do understand your reason for being down on the Spike Feeder/Thune package, given Company’s deckbuilding restrictions, though I will mention that the list that took down the SCG Premier IQ in Portland featured it (and given that you only really need one of each, it doesn’t eat up that much room).

Here’s a question, though – what do you think about something like Restoration Angel to double down on a Eternal Witness/Orzhov Pontiff/etc.? It seems that a lot of decks that follow your suggestion and do not opt for Spike Feeder/Thune end up playing this instead. Thoughts?

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By: Tyler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120829 Tue, 19 May 2015 04:43:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120829 In reply to Tyler.

Whoops I put the same link twice. This is the other.

https://i.imgur.com/yuzigdD.png

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By: Tyler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120828 Tue, 19 May 2015 04:41:21 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120828 Love the write up, been testing various builds for the past 2 months. The biggest thing I feel people mess up is their numbers on viable creature count hits, especially once you discount mana dorks and costs of 4 or greater. I made two graphs to better understand the exact percentages. Feel free to use as you want.

https://i.imgur.com/1TMxb4w.png

https://i.imgur.com/1TMxb4w.png

The second one goes up to “6 copies” for if someone wanted to run 4 viscera seer and 1 varolz and 1 cartel for 6 sac outlets, or 3 anafenza 3 melira, effectively.

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By: Sean Ridgeley https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120827 Mon, 18 May 2015 22:21:18 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120827 In reply to JuancaMerengueYUrca.

Edited.

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By: JuancaMerengueYUrca https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120826 Mon, 18 May 2015 22:12:47 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120826 Just one little thing that bugged me: ‘persay’ is not an english word, it’s latin ‘per se’.

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/per%20se

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By: Galerion https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120825 Mon, 18 May 2015 19:59:28 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120825 Melira and company are back with a vengeance it seems. Good.

I really enjoy playing the deck. I would even go so far and say that I rarely had so much fun playing a deck. Which is kinda funny because I did try out Pod in the past and never really liked it that much. That’s how it goes I guess 🙂

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120824 Mon, 18 May 2015 18:43:09 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120824 In reply to BeardBard.

It really should say “ONE could make an argument…” followed a few sentences later by “But if you want combo consistency, don’t just think of Anafenza as a better Melira. Think of Melira as Anafenza’s 5-6 but with an upside in one matchup. ” I’m actually going to change this to be clear, because I don’t want players to get the wrong impression.

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By: BeardBard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120823 Mon, 18 May 2015 18:37:29 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120823 In reply to Sheridan Lardner.

No big deal. I’m just not sure how you read “You could make an argument to ditch Melira entirely” otherwise :p

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120822 Mon, 18 May 2015 18:35:13 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120822 In reply to BeardBard.

Sorry if it came off like you should cut her entirely. I deliberately included her in the core card section because I don’t think you should ever cut her entirely. I just made the opening sentence to acknowledge the perspective of some players who want to cut her. In hindsight, I should probably just have made a stronger statement about “don’t ever cut all her copies”

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By: BeardBard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/05/introducing-abzan-collected-company/#comment-2120821 Mon, 18 May 2015 18:19:03 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=1880#comment-2120821 I’ve been playing this deck pretty much since it became legal, and I’d agree this is a pretty decent write up. The one glaring issue I see right now that isn’t just a deck preference is the comment on cutting Melira. You should always have at least one in your mainboard no matter what the meta is because she can be a 4th piece in the combo with anafenza to grant your whole team infinite power. The 3 card combo with finks often makes it so your opponent can’t win. The 4 card combos available almost certainly just actually win the game (4th cards being blood artist, melira/anafenza, redcap off infinite scry).

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