You board out Undoing in all of those matchups so don’t take this.

i was thinking on taking this deck to a tournament, the field would be burn, affinity and X company mostly, then all the rest.

Should i take this or go with grixis twin? I’m asking because with most of the field i will be taking out day’s undoing.

what do you say?

I don’t have a UR Delver plan, since I’m pretty sure it’s not a deck. GR Tron was very easy to beat in my testing. They average one big play per turn once they get their lands right (Karn, Wurmcoil, etc.), and other than Ugin, we can negate each of them with a single spell (i.e. Vapor Snag). Since the Wurms rarely connect, it’s easy to just burn them out as well. Shoals come out; Snapback and Revelry come in.

Yeah I very much agree that knowing your deck well gives you massive percentage in close matchups (I’ve played miracles in legacy for about 3 years now). Slight of hand tested well (I played with the shell as is for a while too), but I do think that remand is very good in some matchups. It’s possibly even worth considering as a sideboard slot, or maybe a 1 of in the main with 1 sleight.

The Inkmoth attacked; Blinkmoth pumped it without ever animating.

Link to big delve / heavy delve Grixis, fyi:

https://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comments/36mt9t/modern_primer_heavy_delve_grixis_delver/

Check the article for some evidence suggesting Undoing hardly hurts Tarmogoyf. Dryad is very bad in this format since it’s easily killable early and a horrible topdeck.

So you think that Big Delve Grixis is the better deck then budget monkey grow? Sorry for being annoying, but you are the authority on this kind of stuff.

Well played 🙂

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Ultimate Price.

I don’t think you tried the right build of Grixis. I agree that standard Grixis Delver lists are goodstuff midrange decks. While “big delve” Grixis is a worse Monkey Grow, it’s still a bad Monkey Grow, and it doesn’t look anything much like the Kolaghan’s Command builds running around.

I tried Grixis, and I hated it. It didn’t feel like I was playing Tempo. It felt like two decks mashed together. Monkey Grow is phenomal, and even thought I can’t afford Goyfs, (High School Student,) I think I’m going to stick with Green just for ol’ mandrills. I know it’s not optimal but it’s the I’ve got if I want to play what feels to me like tempo.

Nice job. Remand is a card I only ever tested as a 4-off, and then cut entirely as my list evolved. The effect seems great here on paper and I might consider it again in the future, specifically over that Sleight slot; that said, Sleight is truly bonkers in this deck. I would also have kept Goyf against the Burn deck. Grixis Twin is a great matchup for this deck, but everybody misplays. It’s good of you to recognize mistakes, since owning up to them helps you improve your game 🙂

The sideboard is by no means set in stone. One of my favorite things about the RUG Delver archetype in general, but especially in Modern, is how much flexibility pilots have when it comes to sideboarding. These colors give us a ton of great cards, and it’s fine to base choices on personal preference.

I’m thinking of running 2 Feed the Clan myself for an upcoming PPTQ in NYC just to have extra points against Burn; it’s really not a matchup I want to “accidentally” lose. But the games are supposed to be close; if they’re completely lopsided, I generally consider it a deckbuilding fault. When possible, I like to sacrifice some points in an 80/20 matchup to improve the 50/50 ones. I’m of the opinion that with cores like these – stocked with consistency effects and powerful cards – an intimate knowledge of the deck will win you a bunch of games on its own.

Not at all. Take a look at the reports above for specific detail; Goyf was always huge again the turn after an Undoing and he never even died to Bolt right after Undoing resolved.

Thanks 🙂 Adding Pyromancer sacrifices a lot of the deck’s mini-synergies, which give it its resilience and punch. There’s no reason to be in green without Tarmogoyf; you might want to look at the “big delve” Grixis variants, which run 8 delve fatties an Denial. I still maintain that these decks are strictly worse versions of Monkey Grow, since they rely so heavily on Thought Scour to power out their threats.

Yes, I have. No green opens us up to death by Pyroclasm and seriously hinders our ability to transition to a midrange plan mid-game. Check my earlier articles for more on the nongreen builds.