Comments on: Insider: Rotational Pick-ups at BFZ for Standard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 18 Jan 2022 02:23:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/#comment-1174806 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:05:05 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=62201#comment-1174806 In reply to Sean.

I do like it eventually…but as you stated, 4 CMC is a bit slow. Utter End is an amazing removal spell in a Midrange/Control environment, when you can sacrifice efficiency for overall power level…but come rotation, I expect a lot of token and mono-red decks…and Utter End is pretty horendous in those matchups (heck….Hero’s Downfall is too and it’s cheaper)

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By: Sean https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/#comment-1174656 Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:10:11 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=62201#comment-1174656 In reply to David Schumann.

David what do you think about utter end as a target? It seems like a perfect answer for hero’s downfall leaving the format and is currently at bulk prices. I think that 4 cmc may be a little slow but as of now, it seems that abzan will need this to compete post rotation.

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/#comment-1170872 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:10:27 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=62201#comment-1170872 In reply to Brian.

Definitely a valid point. I did forget to check the precon deck lists to see if any of them were on there (though I wouldn’t go so far as to lump it in with uncommons…somewhere between regular rare and uncommon sure..but those precon decks do NOT sell at the LGS’s around me)

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By: David Schumann https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/#comment-1170869 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:09:28 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=62201#comment-1170869 In reply to Cory.

Cory,

I can get behind Narset Transcendent later on, however, my focus was on decks that I think will be immediately good…and I honestly don’t feel like control decks will immediately be good at rotation..as they need time to figure out what the threats are so they can make sure to include the answers.

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By: Cory https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/#comment-1170778 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:34:21 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=62201#comment-1170778 while I agree with most of what you say, however with KTK fetches taking most of the value from khans do you think we will see that much of a bump in prices from the stuff from the same set? Also, do you not think perhaps narset, transcendant should be on this list? She starts with 7 loyalty which is a lot when there’s no hero’s downfall

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By: Brian https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/08/insider-rotational-pick-ups-at-bfz-for-standard/#comment-1170675 Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:01:35 +0000 http://www.quietspeculation.com/?p=62201#comment-1170675 Secure the waste was in a pre con deck and as such is still probably more like an uncommon then a rare in terms of supply

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