Comments on: Building Knightfall: My Deckbuilding Process https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:12:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jose https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122471 Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:12:49 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122471 In reply to Jose.

Side:
1Dromoka dl
1Primeval titan
3 meedling mage
1 scooze
1 vendilion
1 spellskite
2 relic of progenitus
1 aven mindcensor
1 Fracturing gust
1 simic charm ( semms good in main) but only if they cut the retreats is really good.
1 thrastrusk
1 Valorous stance.

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By: Jose https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122470 Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:04:02 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122470 I Just playing this.
4 path
2 dromoka
1 dispel
2 collected.
3 retreat to coralhem
4 noble hierach
2 birds
1 spellskite
3 geist of sant craft
4 knight of relicary
4 tarmogoyf
3 voices
3 qasali pridemage
1 ojutai dragonlord
1 courser of kruphix
1 batterskull
21land not fewer..
1 gavony
1 steppe
1 rogue passage.
4 windspeth
4 misty
1 flooded
1 hallowed
1 temple garden
1 canopy vista
1 horizon canopy
1 u/w tango
1 breeding pool
2 forest
1 plains

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122469 Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:29:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122469 In reply to Redvader.

It just seems to me like everyone is prepared for Grixis now. Every match is an uphill battle as nobody is falling over to a Gurmag Angler anymore, and I often find myself losing games by inches with that deck. I still think the deck is excellent, it’s just possible that we need to evolve it in a slightly different direction.

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122468 Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:27:42 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122468 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Definitely seems interesting!

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122467 Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:26:00 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122467 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Lotus Cobra has always suffered from giving us the mana a turn after we really need it (as T1 acceleration is miles better than T2 acceleration). It’s true that Cobra gives us a bunch of mana and plays well with our fetches, but on Turn 2 I’m looking to cast three drops and start attacking from there.

Collected Company has been on my mind and were I to cut some of the Remands/Path to Exile I could definitely see playing some. As of now my spell count seems a little too high.

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By: Redvader https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122466 Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:21:08 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122466 Hey Trevor! Just looking for some assistance here for the current metagame and your thoughts on how it will move going forward. Why, in your opinion, is the Grixis Control deck not seeing very much play? Also, do you think that the deck is going to become a top contender again after we get back into the modern season? If not, do you think the Blue Jund lists and the Grixis Delver lists are becoming the superior versions of the deck? I personally play delver and I am looking to branch out further into the control list, but looking online it seems to have put up little to no results over the past month or so.

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By: Paulo Azevedo https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122465 Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:19:27 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122465 Scooze didn’t make it?

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122464 Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:35:55 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122464 also simic charm is some jordan boisvert tech that might be useable in knightfall. the rarely used hexproof mode can save your retreat (or sword) from removal. The bounce is always versatile, and while the +3+3 isn’t as good as it is with mandrils, it provides some reach and can be solid when you upgrade your geist to kill a blocking tasigur/goyf

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By: Tanner Chase https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122463 Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:11:01 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122463 I can’t help but feel that this wants 1-2 Bant Charm

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By: DNLK https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122462 Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:08:27 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122462 Green-white decks I saw on the field use cards like Collected Company, Chord of Calling and Eternal Witness to make sure they can get back into game and topdeck nicely. This makes them not splash red to have reasonable reach as they can easily clog the board again. Should even Retreat deck player be worried in such a things at all or it’s more like all in type of strategy? Sure, if you scroll down all your lands in deck, you probably always draw something useful, but still. Or I just look at that deck from wrong perspective, trying to put it into some sort of grindy creature based deck category?

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/10/building-knightfall-my-deckbuilding-process/#comment-2122461 Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:08:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5070#comment-2122461 Have you tried lotus cobra and/or swords? Collected Company? Those are the standout alternatives that I’ve seen. I’ve also seen props for courser of kruphix since paired with retreat its a lot of control over your draws (and bonus points for courser being hit by company and being a t2 play off a dork).

I don’t love steppe lynx here – I’ve seen it run in zoo decks before and invariably it ends up costing them the game where a loam lion would have won it. It has a place in temur battle rage decks because doubling 4 is a big deal, but otherwise I don’t feel this card is correct to play in modern given the plethora of alternatives.

Cobra synergizes with a high fetch count, but you need ways to leverage the mana – which swords seem to do quite nicely.

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