Comments on: Eat My Dust: Blowing Smoke With BUG Faeries https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:49:27 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122907 Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:49:27 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122907 In reply to Jérémy Cros.

This deck has a better time adapting to a midrange strategy than my grow decks, especially in game one. It does feel like tempo against a good chunk of decks, especially the slower ones like Twin and BGx. Glad you’re still on Monkey Grow; I took the deck to a Super Series last weekend and will publish a tournament report this Friday.

On Shoal math: it’s actually a little different than Force math, since Shoal requires specific casting costs. I like a minimum of 22 blue spells in the main with a playset of Shoal. More on the numbers in this article:
http://quietspeculation.com/some-bob-with-your-bugs-confidant-in-delver/

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By: Jérémy Cros https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122906 Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:06:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122906 I’ve been following your posts here very closely for a while since I’ve wanted to change from playing Jund and I thought the tempo style gameplay would suit me better. I’m on Monkey Grow right now (not enjoying that much success ’cause this deck is hard as f**k to pilot, although I’m learning) but I have to say, I absolutely love this list. It has everything I love about Magic i.e. BUG Colors, Tarmogoyfs, Visions, Counterspells, Snap and removals.

Stupid question first… It seems to me that you’re running a lot less blue spells than your other lists with Disrupting Shoal. Can you still support it? Keeping in mind that, being a D&T player in Legacy, I have no idea about the math with FoW.

How does the game feel like playing compared to midrange strategies / your other tempo decks? Do you still retain that complex decision making? Does the game actually feel like tempo? Anyway, it looks like a lot of fun to play.

I think I’m short 1 Snapcaster Mage and the 4 Bitterblossom of being able to sleeve up the deck. I’ll see if I have some spare cash after Christmas.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122905 Tue, 08 Dec 2015 06:34:26 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122905 In reply to Kyogre.

Thanks! A U/B version cashed at the GP, as mentioned in the article. Personally, I don’t think U/B is where interactive decks want to be in this format. Maybe you own Lightning Bolts?

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By: Doug https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122904 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:11:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122904 This looks really cool. Might have to give it a whirl.

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By: Kyogre https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122903 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:40:07 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122903 Hi! Great content as always, it’s been a while since I started following this amazing site but this is the first time I’ve decided to write a comment. I have always been in love with control U/X/X strategies, but after the decline of my beloved UWR I have just collected losses and losses. Faeries is a deck I really like, but unfortunately I do not own 4 goyfs. Could a UB version work as well? After all something like 5 Tasigurs/Anglers, some Thought Scours and a less painful manabase seems sweet, too. The problem is finding something to replace Decay, Nature’s Claim and Feed the Clan which are all powerful, unique effects that are not easy to find in blue and black. Any suggestion please? 🙂

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By: Jeff https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122902 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:27:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122902 Also have you ever considered Commandeer in any of your lists? I feel like it has a place in the board in the tron matchup – gimme dat plainswalker! Too cute? Just a thought. Negate is probably where you want to be.

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By: Jeff https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122901 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:24:14 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122901 I was surprised not to see any simic charm in the 75? Works well with Disrupting Shoal and I know you have a liking for the card!

Perhaps
-1 Abrupt Decay
+1 Simic Charm

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122900 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:23:08 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122900 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Small Zoo, for one, looks like a problem for your deck. A Sprite will be a nice tempo swing, but when you’re getting bombarded by 1-drops that are bigger than anything but a well-fed Goyf, it’s a problem. CoCo Zoo will also be a problem, though less so. Damnation (or EE on 2, but that one has more friendly-fire issues) also helps against the likes of Merfolk, which historically has beaten the tar out of decks like Faeries. It also makes a lot more sense when you’re advocating a IoK-for-Peppersmoke swap (as I currently am).

I disagree with the notion that IoK is always a tempo-negative play, though. Ripping out an aggro deck’s 2-drop of choice can throw their whole curve out of whack and give you a pretty significant advantage. Furthermore, IoK’s inability to interact with resolved permanents feels a lot less bad in a deck with Abrupt Decay. I think the number of decks where a Peppersmoke feels bad in hand is greater than the ones where an IoK does.

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By: Zach https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122899 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 01:25:40 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122899 Very happy to see some experimentation with BUG. I think this color wedge represents a very untapped area of deck building for Modern. Bitterblossom is a huge long game play that dodges most mainboard removal aside from decay, and spellstutter is a fantastic anti path/bolt/visions tempo pressure play. I feel like this deck is only a single innocuous reprint effect away from becoming a big player. Something like innocent blood would be a really nice card to shore up a variety of matchups.

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By: Jorge https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122898 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 19:49:48 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122898 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Is your local LGS meta always so combo heavy? I wonder how this deck would fare in a meta rife with fast clocks. You say the infect matchup is good, but what about Nacatl decks?

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122897 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 13:48:39 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122897 In reply to Daniel Goetschel.

Grindy mirrors are already very easy to win. I don’t mind only losing to one tier deck.

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By: Boogelawoof https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122896 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 11:01:28 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122896 I like a one of rancor in this list…to address the racing issue. I do like keeping 2 pepper smoke for four pumpagage

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By: Boogelawoof https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122895 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 10:44:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122895 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Golgari charm may help the tokens matchup

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By: Daniel Goetschel https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122894 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 06:33:38 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122894 What do you think of Bribery to help vs Tron and also good vs grindy mirrors (bad vs cryptic though)

im Gul Dukat btw.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122893 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 05:55:13 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122893 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

IOK is definitely better than Pepper in certain metagames. I like that Pepper shuts down Modern’s faster aggro decks and disrupts synergy, while not being dead against other decks in game one. IOK is an always tempo-negative play that doesn’t deal with resolved permanents.

What matchups would you want a sweeper effect for? The only time I’ve lost to a bunch of creatures so far in my testing is against tokens, sometimes out of non-“Tokens” decks like Abzan. Affinity has been fine. Granted, I haven’t tested against CoCo, but I think Dispel, Denial, Peppersmoke, Decay, and Thoughtseize effects should contain that deck just fine. I’m wary of adding cards to the sideboard that don’t address specific problems that I know exist.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122892 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 05:22:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122892 I’d hardly consider this Faeries – it’s more like BUG Tempo with a touch of Faerie synergy. I’d say it’s a pretty good deck in spite of that, but I’d be tempted to just ditch the Peppersmoke (or sideboard it) and mainboard the IoK. I feel that the sideboard needs some sort of sweeper (Damnation, EE, heck, even Maelstrom Pulse) as well.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122891 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 05:14:46 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122891 I’d hardly consider this Faeries – it’s more like BUG Tempo with a touch of Faerie synergy. I’d say it’s a pretty good deck in spite of that, but I’d be tempted to just ditch the Peppersmoke (or sideboard it) and mainboard the IoK.

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By: KickHopper https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122890 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 04:13:01 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122890 In reply to Beau Doran.

I was worried this was going to be more 3-drop garbage like most Faerie decks. I’m pleasantly surprised.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122889 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 04:09:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122889 In reply to Niall McCarthy.

This deck is indeed very fun. I brought it to a local tournament tonight and had a blast, playing a bunch of matches and going 5-1. Went 2-0 against Burn, 2-0 against Ad Nauseam, 2-0 against Eggs, 2-0 against UW Emeria Control, 2-0 against Soul Sisters, and as expected, 0-2 against BW Tokens (losing twice to Ajani Goldmane).

To my chagrin, Peppersmoke sat in the board for every matchup except Soul Sisters, but opening Bitterblossom, Goyf, and double Smoke against that deck game one made up for it 😀 As I said in the article, Smoke really helps in otherwise tough matchups that can get ahead of us. If it’s bad in already favorable matchups, that’s fine; we’ll just board them out there and win anyway.

That said, I moved one Peppersmoke to the side and cut the Spell Snare from my list to play two Probes, which have been sweet. The info is superb in this deck, and I like having more blue cards for Shoal. Since the Burn matchup is so good, I figured we could play some Probes. IMO most blue decks that don’t lose to Burn should run them.

I wish we could fit discard effects into the mainboard, as they’ve been all-stars from the side, but we can’t without weakening Shoal the deck’s true enabler. Without Shoal, the Faeries deck doesn’t have time to do anything in Modern, which I consider much too fast for traditional shells.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2015/12/eat-my-dust-blowing-smoke-with-bug-faeries/#comment-2122888 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 03:56:05 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=5832#comment-2122888 In reply to Beau Doran.

The games I lose with this deck are due to flooding out on expensive cards like Leak and Snap as opponents beat me up with one-drops. Painful Truths would only exacerbate this problem and contribute nothing to the harder matchups.

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