Forked Bolt the two early Mimics. This requires the Eldrazi deck to have 3 cards in their opening hand, only requires you one.

Yeah, the Blue Eldrazi. That doesn’t make Blue as a color good. It just makes Eldrazi require a tiny bit of blue mana to play some of the cards that are only going to be played within their archetype.

Seas-flood is definitely a thing against certain decks. But you’re usually siding some or all of them out against those decks. The crux of the matter is that when I look at the Tier 1/2 listings, I see plenty of decks that would be none too pleased if I disrupted their manabase (or their manlands), and other decks where I need to be drawing mass evasion if I’m going to reliably beat them. More Seas effects accomplishes both these goals.

To all who are thinking about the 6/8 seas effects: I have never played merfolk myself, but I will say that playing against it, the easiest games have been the ones where my opp just draws a bunch of seas effects and don’t pressure my life total. I can usually remove/deal with the threats if they are just coming one at a time.

FWIW

Solution:
WOTC should reprint everything I want that I don’t already own, but not the stuff I own.
Also ban stuff.
But not my deck. In fact, unban my deck.

And better foil process on cards that because of the supposed limited availability, are not a fun bonus, but rather a sign of failure to meet my demands.

“Is Eldrazi overpowered? Likely. Does it need a nerf-ban? Maybe.”

Faaaar from acknowledgement.

8-Seas does require trimming a bit of threat density, but it’s usually done at the very top of the curve (mostly Master of Waves in this meta, given that protection from red just isn’t going as far as it once did), and that still leaves you with 26-28 threats to close a game out (depending on how much non-creature interaction you left in), which isn’t terrible. And while the answers aren’t plentiful in the main, there’s still a bit of room for them in the side. I definitely see your points (which is why I waffle between 6 and 8 Seas on a nearly-daily basis), but some testing should elucidate which variant is best positioned. I think that for testing purposes, I’d rather go whole hog and scale back as necessary than building my way up to 8.

Twin was pretty much the only brake on linear decks – im not sure how anyone can be ok with the banning of twin

Eight seas is not the answer to winning a GP – it leaves you incredibly threat and answer light.

Trevor has all the answers – he reckons sol-lands are fine and you just need a damnantion or two and stop whinging!? How’s that going Trevor – got any videos up of you stomping eldrazi with your damnations yet?

This is probably your most foolish comment, particularly “why didn’t you mana leak their TKS”

Many lols were had

Answer: “cause you can’t mull to a leak and still have a hope of winning”

It’s actually quite simple. The eldrazi deck can mulligan to gas. Reactionary decks can’t realistically mull to an answer. It’s a death sentence.

You seem to think that if you just answer their first few threats you are in the clear. I seriously question how much you have been playing against the deck.

I don’t mean to be insulting, but anyone who knows about magic is reading your comments and laughing at them.

My results with Merfolk were only a tad better than 50/50 with only 4 Seas effects and 2 Ghost Quarter, so I tend to agree with you. That said, I don’t think that would be the optimal list to bring in an Eldrazi-infested meta (I’m leaning toward 8 Seas effects at the moment), and I think the results with more adaptations included are still in the process of being gathered. For example, Dane Brooks took down an SCG Regional with a 6-Seas Merfolk list (link here: http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32413_Daily-Digest-.html ), and had to beat Eldrazi in the process. I’m not ready to call this fight just yet.

I actually think it is hilarious that wizards interest for competitive diversity has led to this. Everyone should personally write them a letter with those quotes then attach a sheet of the new meta game numbers in like a month or so.

I am ok with the twin ban now, but at the same time look how long it will take to actually get good blue cards released into modern again if ever. AV is probably a year away and by that time we will need standard to bring us something. But I look at AV as having either too great an impact or having about as much as Day’s undoing.

Sadly its going to take a lot more than AV for U to be good in modern – anyway everyone should stop there whining – U is good in Modern! There are U cards in UR Eldrazi right?!

They are not though – this is just wishful thinking – from the pilots of these other decks (except company)..

I think the potential of Merfolk and hatebears to beat Eldrazi is overstated – while they are ok against Eldrazi they are not favoured and are at the very best 50/50 – depending on the build of eldrazi. Abzan company – however – with worship and Archangel/Spike feeder combo is heavily favoured.

Wotc – January 18, 2016

Lol!

Sadly, we do not have that data. I will say that there is very little chance the deck is totally unbeatable. Affinity, Abzan Company, and Merfolk should be unfavorable (or even very unfavorable) matchups for the Eldrazi. Even so, the deck is still pushing out serious numbers, which suggests it’s less vulnerable than we thought, its strengths are compensating for its weaknesses, the metagame hasn’t fully adapted yet, or a number of other factors. I honestly am not sure which is at play, but I do know these numbers are disturbing both in context and in a vacuum. We’ll see if more data can sort this picture out, but my suspicion is that Eldrazi stay problematic through April.