Comments on: Non-Eldrazi Takeaways from SCG Louisville https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:48:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: _phenethylamin_ https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124714 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:48:17 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124714 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

I call them Helicopter Parents – as they care so much about my Boardstate 😉

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By: Beryl Lasko https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124713 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:18:14 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124713 In reply to Sheridan Lardner.

“rebalanced” I hope you’re right!

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By: Beryl Lasko https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124712 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:16:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124712 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

Yep, but that’s what they’re called.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124711 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:27:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124711 In reply to Thiago Nakamura.

Aaron Forsythe Tweeted today about waiting until April to act, which I strongly believe is the correct call. I also believe there’s basically zero chance the Eldrazi survive April, so the format should be rebalanced again soon!

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124710 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:27:08 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124710 In reply to sirolimusland.

My suspicion is that tournament attendance will take a hit and this will be a strong vote in favor of a ban. Not that we need too much more of a message, given the obscene warpage in Modern. You’re spot on in identifying economic impulses as being big for Wizards, and I expect it contributes to action in April.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124709 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:25:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124709 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

I try to avoid abbreviations in articles, but in everyday speech I often just use “P&K.” But I like a lot of these other suggestions! Very flavorful and fun.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124708 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:24:19 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124708 In reply to Piotr Kanister Głogowski.

It’s transformational in the sense that it goes from a combo deck to a ramp deck. As Chris VanMeter has explained both on camera and in articles, the goal is to start as the turn 2-3 Amulet Bloom combo deck with a Titan Plan B. Post-board against BGx and similar decks, you become a pure Tron-style ramp deck, probably with no combo plan A or B at all. That’s a big shift in playstyle, even if it doesn’t encompass a lot of changed cards.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124707 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:17:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124707 In reply to Craig Cliburn.

Glad you enjoyed the piece! Hysteria is the last thing I want to be a part of, and I’m glad our content is coming off that way.

Kalitas is very interesting in the metagame (and the hypothetical post-Eldrazi metagame), and I’m curious to see how else he appears in the format. Jund is obviously adopting him but perhaps the lagging Grixis will soon as well!

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By: Andrew Zimba https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124706 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:51:23 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124706 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

P.K.Rents of course.

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By: Piotr Kanister Głogowski https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124705 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 22:53:03 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124705 In reply to Michael Warme.

You can argue whether the deck was a ramp deck or a combo deck, but it doesn’t really matter – mainboard plan and postboard plan against bg decks were the same, get to six mana and cast something they can’t deal with. People didn’t sideboarded out Amulets nor Blooms nor lands, so why was it transormational

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By: Thiago Nakamura https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124704 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 22:51:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124704 I play with Eldrazi but that is not the healthy and diverse metagame I was expecting. I agree that Eldrazi Temple needs a ban as soon as possible.

If you want to play Mtg you can choose to play 5 competitive formats:

Pauper, Legacy, Vintage, Standard and “Eldrazi”.

Eldrazi left Zendikar and now they are threatening Earth plane. Please Wotc seal them before they destroy modern realm.

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By: Frank Herfjord https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124703 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:19:10 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124703 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

PikiChute. Because PIa and KIran and chutes fly.

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By: Jacob Kellogg https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124702 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:17:02 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124702 In reply to Beryl Lasko.

During gameplay? Like, you would cast them and announce “The Parents” and wait for a response? Seems off somehow.

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By: Beryl Lasko https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124701 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:57:31 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124701 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

I always just called them “The Parents”

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124700 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:31:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124700 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

I always used Parents, but Mom & Pop’s Thopter Shop looks good.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124699 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:11:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124699 In reply to Jacob Kellogg.

Mom and Pop’s Thopter Shop. It isn’t the shorter name, but it is the correct one.

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By: sirolimusland https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124698 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:05:13 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124698 “but still write more than a Twitter post to Aaron Forsythe pleading for action”

Oooh goody, it looks like my asinine baying here and on reddit is finally starting to have some small effect. I will also suggest that you and others contact Professional Event Services and warn them that their tournament entry take could suffer due to the current state of Modern. I’m not sure who is running the other GPs, but they should be badgered as well.

WotC will respond if there is an economic impact to its core business partners. (Maybe… I actually still heavily doubt that we will see an “emergency ban” of any kind before April, but I am hoping I can be proven wrong)

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By: Michael Warme https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124697 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:48:39 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124697 In reply to Michael Warme.

Also, I’d like to see SOMETHING on the main page addressing this change to the comments section–clearly some kind of further identification was necessary, but still. Requiring connection to some sort of actual personally identifiable social media is somewhat obnoxious.

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By: Michael Warme https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124696 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:47:02 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124696 In reply to Piotr Kanister Głogowski.

Except it’s not a ramp deck game one–it’s definitely a fast combo deck. Oh, sure, it’s capable of playing a ramp game before sideboard, but the deck certainly didn’t have the consistency of a real ramp deck (like Tron) at executing that gameplan. Summer bloom’s best use-case was as a stupidly powerful ritual, jumping from 2 to 6 mana. In sideboarded games, it was much more common to use it as a double copy of explore (call Bertoncheaty!)

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By: Jacob Kellogg https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/non-eldrazi-takeaways-from-scg-louisville/#comment-2124695 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:07:23 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7743#comment-2124695 This seems like a perfect time to ask the community:

What’s a good nickname for Pia and Kiran Nalaar? I mean, that’s a really cumbersome card name; I’d really like to call it something else during gameplay. Anyone have ideas? Ones I’ve encountered include:
– PaKNal (pronounced similarly to Pac-Man)
– P.K. Nalaar
– Mom and Pop’s Thopter Shop (okay, not shorter, but still fun)

Any other ideas?

– Jiggy

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