Comments on: Wise Cracks: Anti-Eldrazi Canaries in GRx Blood Moon https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:41:23 +0000 hourly 1 By: Gino Killiko https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124691 Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:41:23 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124691 In reply to Anonymous.

Saying that xyz tech might not be good is fine. I’m just sick and tired of people whining “stop talking about Eldrazi/Twin ban/etc”. If the article is about something that doesn’t interest you, don’t read it. Debate about the merits of the actual proposition is fine, so long as it’s respectful.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124690 Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:48:55 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124690 In reply to Not Happy With Modern.

The numbers indicate that Eldrazi’s continued presence in Modern is actually keeping players from using those “good cards.”

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By: Kurt Simmøns https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124689 Sun, 21 Feb 2016 04:09:22 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124689 In reply to Gino Killiko.

Lol

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By: Not Happy With Modern https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124688 Sun, 21 Feb 2016 02:03:03 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124688 What is getting increasingly annoying about Modern is that after every banning the format feels more and more watered down. We suddenly cannot play the best cards available when things like Pod, Twin, and Eldrazi (it will get banned) are on the ban list. In stead of an open format, with tons of possibilities, its a controlled format where Wizards tells us what we can play.

Lets not forget how this format felt pre-Oath, post-Twin. Everyone was playing one drop zoo, merfolk, affinity, and infect. Boy oh boy, i cant wait to get back to that aggro fest, after the current aggro fest is banned…

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By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124687 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 20:27:29 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124687 In reply to Gino Killiko.

Criticism is good of it’s not offensive. For example regarding this article, I believe that pointing out that maybe the MU evaluation is too much optimistic is totally acceptable. I don’t think that beacuse something is free it should not be criticized.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124686 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 07:04:12 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124686 In reply to Howard.

Maybe I should have specified. Star doesn’t do anything on its own. An all-air cantrip that forces you to have a second mana available to use it, with no card selection. So on paper, it’s a horrible card for GRx Moon, which has no color issues and is generally very tight on both mana and decklist slots. But in this build, it’s a necessary evil to support Crack the Earth.

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By: Howard https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124685 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 06:53:16 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124685 How is Chromatic Star a horrible card?

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By: Gino Killiko https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124684 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 06:31:47 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124684 Seriously, this site provides FREE modern content on a daily basis. Are some articles less interesting to me? Yes. That’s when I either a) don’t read it or b) read it anyway, because some content is better than no content, and then, and this is the important part, I DON’T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT’S FUCKING FREE CONTENT. You know what’s a bigger pain in the ass than articles about Eldrazi or the banning of Twin? Comments, at the bottom of EACH article, moaning about said articles. If you don’t like the content, don’t read it, and spare all of us your whining.

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By: Sheridan Lardner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124683 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:34:43 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124683 In reply to Kurt Simmøns.

Honestly, there isn’t much else in Modern to talk about; it’s ALL going to involve Eldrazi because Eldrazi is defining the format. It definitely doesn’t need to be about beating Eldrazi, banning Eldrazi, or the metagame in terms of its Eldrazi population, but it’s going to talk about Eldrazi in some way. To do anything else, although maybe interesting to some readers, is disingenuous about the state of the format.

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By: Kurt Simmøns https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124682 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:28:05 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124682 In reply to Kurt Simmøns.

10*, dumb phone.

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By: Kurt Simmøns https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124681 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:24:55 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124681 The past 8 articles on this site are about Eldrazi. Can we talk about something else?

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By: Kurt Simmons https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124680 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:23:12 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124680 The past 10 articles on this site are about Eldrazi. Can we talk about something else?

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124679 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:12:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124679 In reply to Anonymous.

I have actually been working on this deck for over a year. You can follow its progression and different builds by clicking on the links in the article.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124678 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:11:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124678 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Glad to hear it 🙂 And you’re not mistaken, see the Jund plan above. Desperate always comes out before Simian since it’s basically a strictly worse version.

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By: joe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124677 Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:02:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124677 In reply to Anonymous.

Tier 8? This will wreck legacy and vintage in no time, because first turn or second turn blood moon is just a great way of playing magic,

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By: Boogelawoof https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124676 Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:53:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124676 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

I have to say, your transformational sideboards in delver (boarding into huntmaster) and now this deck have helped me brew a lot better. I have a playset of tarmo in my prowess brew because it is so good to have extra hard to deal with threats against those grindy midrange matchups.

When your deck is synergistic and trying to pull something off, Jund and UWx can really make it hard for your individual pieces to do anything. Having those big, good-on-their-own threats is huge when you inevitably get to the later part of the game when you are top decking and have plenty of lands in play. Apart from all the cantrips and rituals, this is also another reason why high cmc finishers can actually work in decks with low land counts: the game will go long enough for you to get that many lands in play in the matchups you bring it in for (barring the burn example here for the reasons you outlined).

Am I mistaken, or do you usually cut some rituals in these grinder matchups? I usually shave acceleration and combo pieces in these kinds of marchups

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By: Boogelawoof https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124675 Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:47:09 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124675 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Thanks for your response.

I am thinking that what people meant is less that the metagame was unhealthy, and more that a deck is doing some crazier things. I mean, for Jund, a deck that some people board blood moon in for, to be using it against a deck because they are willing to take the mana hit if it means they can stop something they are having a hard time stopping with their usual bag of versatile tricks, then something out there in the meta game is doing something crazy.

But you are right, I don’t think blood moon is the best example of a canary card. There are way better examples and many decks just run it because of how good it is against the files in general

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By: Anonymous https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124674 Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:42:17 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124674 For the love of the readers. Please stop posting articles about beating Eldrazi with wonky tier 8 decks. Is getting old really fast.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124673 Fri, 19 Feb 2016 20:36:04 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124673 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

I like SBD because it beats up on fair decks that can stabilize past us. Jeskai flavors, Hatebears/D&T, and CoCo all have a really hard time removing it, and it closes games out in the air, where they can rarely block. It comes in against Burn because it’s better than the other options we have for that matchup. The reason we’re so under-“carded” for Burn is that we crush them anyway, so it’s not a problem IMO.

As for Living End, seeing a deck “around” doesn’t really cut it for me. Sheridan’s most recent metagame update has that deck at 1.2%. I think even if the matchup is horrible, it’s not even worth testing at that representation level.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/02/wise-cracks-anti-eldrazi-canaries-grx-blood-moon/#comment-2124672 Fri, 19 Feb 2016 20:30:42 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=7718#comment-2124672 In reply to Anonymous.

Exactly. The Eldrazi decks are so fast we need Simian Spirit Guide and Crack the Earth to interact with them before they can generate a huge board.

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