Comments on: Shadows Over Innistrad Set Review and Decklists, Pt. 1

By: Nathan Van Vranken

Nathan Van Vranken — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 21:48:13 +0000

Gotta say,
Good job on making a basic outline for the Humans deck. Slowly building mine up with more SOI goodies. I am just trying to figure out if I want Naya or GW. Now is there talk of a more inclusive deck list involving the tribe? Right now still testing but also compiling.

By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago

Roland F. Rivera Santiago — Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:42:12 +0000

In reply to Trevor Holmes.

You’re right, the tools really aren’t there for Vampire Tribal aggro. There’s a big, yawning hole at the 2-drop spot.

Looking forward to see what you can do with Humans, though. Videos perhaps?

By: ColumnMissing

ColumnMissing — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 22:55:01 +0000

In reply to Trevor Holmes.

Yeah, Delirium buffs Thought Scour but also buffs grave hate in sb. It’s an interesting balance.

I ended up swapping my grixis control list back to running Thought Scour because of delirium, and it’s pretty great. Almost makes it worth the weakness to grave hate. However, I’m swapping over to infect since I got a great deal on the legacy pieces.

By: Trevor Holmes

Trevor Holmes — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:42:08 +0000

In reply to Linus Elfström.

Four mana is a lot of mana, and most of the Human one-drops are pretty underwhelming. With Company, you want combo synergies, or grabbing two 3 three drops for “cheap”.

Possible, but I don’t think so.

By: Trevor Holmes

Trevor Holmes — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:41:11 +0000

In reply to Hurfsome. I can understand that, most of Goyf's power comes from Thoughtseizing a creature or something in the first couple turns. Delirium might be harder to activate than I thought (though there is the Thought Scour decks...)

By: Trevor Holmes

Trevor Holmes — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:39:40 +0000

In reply to Gar-rot.

Sure, but we’re only ever playing 2-3 Gurmag Angler costed threats. Every other time, Sin Prodder will just be a 3/2 Menace for 3 that pings our opponent for 0-3 damage (think about this guy flipping lands). Opponent’s will always choose to take a couple damage over giving us a free card (which would probably threaten to do more than that amount of damage anyways). Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t think this guy is good at all.

Asylum Visitor is interesting, it won’t fit in every black deck though. 8 Rack and other combo lists that have us going hellbent is where it’s at, or maybe a low to the ground Jund aggro list that just wants four Bobs. Much more interested to see how this guy plays.

By: Trevor Holmes

Trevor Holmes — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:36:24 +0000

In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Roland,

I see your concerns and I believe you are right, the Vampire deck definitely needs a lot of work but I think we are not “there yet” as far as Vampire tribal is concerned.

As for the Humans deck, I can’t wait for this set to come out online, grabbing the rest of the 75 now. It’s gonna be insane!

By: Trevor Holmes

Trevor Holmes — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:34:59 +0000

In reply to Tectardo.

Tectardo,

You are right, and I just don’t want to admit it to myself. I fell in love with playing Vryn’s Prodigy and Snapcaster Mage together and want to do that in Standard too 🙂

By: Linus Elfström

Linus Elfström — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:04:21 +0000

Would it be worth finding slots in the human deck for Collected Company?

By: Hurfsome

Hurfsome — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 21:31:14 +0000

I haven’t tested, but I think that Delirium will be harder to reach than most people think. I think that this comes from tarmogoyf “usually” beeing a 4/5. as a jund player my impression is that goyf is a 4/5 most of the time because I kill or discard one of my opponents creatures, but Delirium only cares about your own graveyard.

By: Gar-rot

Gar-rot — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:44:24 +0000

What are your initial impressions of Sin Prodder and Asylum Visitor in Modern? Sin Prodder and Gurmag Angler seem to be best of friends.

By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago

Roland F. Rivera Santiago — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:27:18 +0000

I think the Vampire tribal aggro list is lacking the consistent pump that an archetype of this nature needs to be successful. Olivia requires madness enablers in order to be successful, and any other scenario leaves you stuck attacking with weenies that are easy to fight off (not to mention that Olivia herself is soft to Bolt). If she is to be successful, I think it will be in more of a combo shell (preferably one that can take advantage of her immediately or has the means to protect her), because she doesn’t play nice with the typical aggro deck requirements of a 3-drop.

That Humans deck, on the other hand, is quite intriguing. I don’t really like Boros Elite, but everything else in the mainboard looks downight tasty.

By: Tectardo

Tectardo — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:35:53 +0000

Trevor, please, we won’t see reprint of any of the Three. Liliana is just busted and we have enough planeswalkers in set already. Snapcaster contains keyword that’s not used in mechanics this time around. Geist won’t appear either, there’s already it’s enchantment thrown at us.