Comments on: Shadows over Innistrad in Temur Delver and GRx Moon https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 10 May 2016 04:12:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kevork Agh https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/#comment-2125107 Tue, 10 May 2016 04:12:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8612#comment-2125107 Ive put together the GR Moon deck but am trying to figure out your choice of Burning-Tree Shaman. Is it purely for shutting off kiki combo/chord combo?

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By: Brojimbo https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/#comment-2125106 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:50:22 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8612#comment-2125106 I think you are undervaluing Skin Invasion’s alternate mode: enchanting one of your own creatures. The downside of having to attack every turn is very real, but there are plenty of times where you were going to do that anyways. But then you create a creature that your opponents have a hard time killing since it will just come back as a 3/4. I really don’t feel like it is enough to push it over the edge in playability, but it is worth noting and almost makes it worth testing, in my opinion.

Other than that nice article as usual! I’m glad to see others are as absolutely pumped for Traverse as I am.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/#comment-2125105 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:38:31 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8612#comment-2125105 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Snapcaster is the worst card in this deck, so we really don’t want to see him enough to play two. I only want to see him in Game 1 against attrition decks and against linear aggro decks when I draw 3+ lands. If not for the Traverse package in the sideboard, I would cut him entirely.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/#comment-2125104 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:36:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8612#comment-2125104 In reply to Tanner Chase.

All it’s really netting you in that case is a 2/1. It’s probably better most of the time to Traverse for a real card and then Snap-Traverse into another real card when you draw Snapcaster Mage. But yeah, if a 2/1 body will win you the game, we do have that option.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/#comment-2125103 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:07:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8612#comment-2125103 Really excited about Traverse the Ulvenwald in Temur Delver. I don’t know how I feel about only a singleton Tiago, though – I recognize his value is somewhat curtailed in a deck that runs Disrupting Shoal (which is a terrible Snap target), but a part of me thinks you want to see him enough that a 2-of could be appropriate.

I’m also unsurprised by your conclusions regarding Thing in the Ice – my gut feeling is that it will thrive in Jeskai Control, where it can be fueled by their extensive spot removal package. Its 0/4 form is also relevant in that shell as a way to fend off early aggro pressure.

Skin Invasion feels like a strong card, but I’m not quite sure where it goes yet. Delver can’t afford to gamble with its resources in order to play it, Jund has more efficient threats, and red aggro decks won’t like the 2-part process of enchanting it then killing it. Perhaps Mardu Midrange (which has more removal than it knows what to do with) or Grixis Control?

I also am unsure how I feel about Moldgraf Scavenger. On the one hand, the lack of top-end power is apparent, particularly in decks like the ones in this article (where the whole point behind certain cards being in the 75 is to feed the Goyf). However, it’s more resilient to graveyard hate than Tarmogoyf is (since you at least get to keep a 0/4 blocker), and is always Bolt-proof (so it can be a 2-drop way to stall while you get your graveyard properly filled. Not to say that it will necessarily find a home here, but it should fit in somewhere.

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By: Tanner Chase https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/shadows-innistrad-temur-delver-grx-moon/#comment-2125102 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:59:04 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8612#comment-2125102 Traverse for Snapper, flashback Traverse to get Goyf feels like absurd value. Traverse represents an incredible number of options late game. Any creature, any basic for an extra G. With your one snapper, any instant or sorcery in your grave for an extra 1UG. Sort of reminds me of the Eternal Witness – Chord of Calling interaction. Great stuff

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