Comments on: Spirited Away: Tribal Brewing with Shadows Over Innistrad https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:27 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125055 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:27 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125055 In reply to Fabio Matteo Dozio.

Stormbound does too little against too many decks, and costs the same as Geist of Saint Traft. I think that card belongs in Pauper. I’d also rather run dedicated sideboard answers to problem decks than subpar mainboard ones.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125054 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:44:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125054 In reply to William Jeffrey Backus.

Way too expensive IMO.

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By: William Jeffrey Backus https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125053 Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:20:30 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125053 After the reveal of spectral Shepard, do you think he’s got a place here? Instant speed 2 mana flicker for any spirit seems really abusable

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By: Fabio Matteo Dozio https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125052 Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:43:06 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125052 Hello Ashton_Kutcher,

Maybe you could consider a couple of Stormbound Geist in the sideboard, as they do a profitable job in both blocking fliers from Affinity and offering resilience against Liliana. I know they are subpar cards on their own (as all Spirits are anyways, being a deck based on tribal sinergy), but it being able to gain Flash via Rattlechains may get it playable.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125051 Thu, 24 Mar 2016 01:55:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125051 In reply to TehGioSays.

If Burn and Zoo turned out to be problems, Herald would be great here. I just don’t think that’s what we have to worry about in this format. Geist is definitely bad against Goblin Guide, but I think our Shoals make up the difference.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125050 Thu, 24 Mar 2016 01:54:09 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125050 In reply to Lee Mather.

I think Steel of the Godhead and Temporal Isolation, respectively, are better than Veil and Plumes. Those two are just too conditional for my taste.

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By: Lee Mather https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125049 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:42:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125049 In reply to Lee Mather.

As a psuedo edit to the above. Perhaps plumes of peace is an option too?

Fetchable with tallowisp, pitchable to both shoals, taps potential geist blockers. It’s the price you pay for being overcosted. It’s not a good turn three play I grant you.

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By: Lee Mather https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125048 Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:24:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125048 Love it.

Any love for a singleton Veil of Secrecy to force through Geist and/or return Rattlechains to your hand? Splicing it onto Shoals for additional value?

1U instant – arcane
Target creature gains shroud until end of turn and can’t be blocked this turn.

Splice onto Arcane—Return a blue creature you control to its owner’s hand.

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By: TehGioSays https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125047 Tue, 22 Mar 2016 03:07:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125047 First, a big thumbs up on the article title! I hope the Ghibli reference was intentional, but if not, I’m still sad somebody got to it before me.

In regards to extra evasion for Geist, don’t forget that you can always toss a Temporal Isolation on him to grant Shadow, letting you swing in with near reckless abandon. You lose the 2 damage from Geist, but it’s great for racing with Angel damage.

Also, if aggro seems to be a problem, would you consider Azorius Herald? It’s 4 life and an unblockable Spirit to toss some lifelink on?

Very glad to see your brewing blood pumping again as April approaches!

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125046 Tue, 22 Mar 2016 02:43:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125046 In reply to Martin Ferdinand Møller.

Not a bad idea. I haven’t tested it but I assume the Tron matchup is a nightmare. Quarters are better than Moorland Haunt if that’s the case.

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By: Martin Ferdinand Møller https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125045 Mon, 21 Mar 2016 23:52:02 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125045 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Yeah my bad wont happen again :p.
That seems like some solid arguments. Though I think the manabase can support some number of utility lands. Maybe something like 3-4 ghost quarters

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125044 Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:23:40 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125044 In reply to Martin Ferdinand Møller.

Jordan, not Justin 😛

Delirium triggers around turn five if we don’t lose a creature, and around turn three otherwise. Go ahead with the Vials and report back how they fare!

I don’t like fancy lands that much. Good mana/not auto-losing to Blood Moon is much more important to me.

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By: Martin Ferdinand Møller https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125043 Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:45:11 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125043 What are your thought behind the absense of collonades, cavern and ghost quarter’s?

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By: Martin Ferdinand Møller https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125042 Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:17:31 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125042 Wow this deck looks amazing Justin. I have almost everycard in the deck so im for sure going to try this one out.
How often do you think this deck can trigger delirium for topplegeist.
I think I will try to test vial in it but maybe you are right that they arent good enough but we will see.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125041 Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:18:23 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125041 In reply to Ziqueiros Zam.

I have, and I tested it. Didn’t like them though. Hierarch (with a G splash) does us a lot of favors, but Vials are clunky in multiples and horrible when we draw them late. Also opens us up to artifact hate, of which Modern has no shortage.

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By: Ziqueiros Zam https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125040 Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:35:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125040 Hava you considered Aether Vial in this deck?

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By: Francis Jodoin https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125039 Sun, 20 Mar 2016 04:01:42 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125039 I thought you didn’t like creatures with text on them 😉

I’ve had my casual tallowisp deck in a box somewhere collecting dust since forever, i might give something similar to your list a spin sometime.

Can’t wait for the breath of fresh air the release of Soi will release in the format. Not just because of bannings, but for the potential tribal love innistrad will gives us. Lots of sweet stuff, really hoping for zombies, humans, vampire to become a thing. Not being tier 1 or 2 doesn’t matter, as long as people can play their pet tribe and be able to collect a few wins at their local fnm.

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By: regixjuggler https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125038 Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:09:46 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125038 I finally made an account just to comment on this. I’ve had my UW Tallowisp deck on the back-burner for two years now, but never did I consider the merit of Shoals. Thanks for the inspiring tech to get me back on the horse. A fun (though casual) line of play is to utilize Arcanum Wings into Eldrazi Conscription. For those that favor hysterical victories over win percentages, nothing beats an 11/13 Tallowisp monstrosity.

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By: David Ernenwein https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125037 Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:28:59 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125037 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Tallowisp could never find Coronet since it never was just ‘enchant creature’, it always had additional riders that made it an ineligible target. You were able to find Threads when they were printed, but the new Aura rules and template have disqualified it.

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/03/spirited-away-tribal-brewing-with-shadows-over-innistrad/#comment-2125036 Fri, 18 Mar 2016 20:15:44 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=8284#comment-2125036 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

Ah, I had assumed that it was capable of grabbing those. That’s disappointing.

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