A fragmentary list about the different applications of Warping Wail:

Counters: Sweepers, Scapeshift, Bring to Light,
Kills: all of Infect’s creatures, Inkmoth, Blinkmoth, Signal Pest, Vault Skirge, Birds of Paradise, Noble Hierach, Wall of Roots, Wall of Omens, Viscera Seer, Spellskite, Izzet Staticaster, Snapcaster Mage, Flickerwisp

I play two copys in the sideboard of my Mono white Eldrazi & Taxes list as an answer to Abzan Company, Infect, Kiki-Chord, Scapeshift, U/(R/B/W) Controll and the mirror.

Thanks for the answer! Green sometimes is an issue, but i think that more green sources are a waste of slots, because the splash is minimum, and between vial, company, and (sometimes happens) ghost quartering my own land for basic forest, it runs really good, but this is my view, so you are free to test it and give some insight.

I “designed” the list to fight against fair decks like jund, abzan, grixis, etc. This was my thoughts. Death and taxes has a problem on topdeck mode against this fair decks, because its a deck that uses synergy. If you cant close the game quickly, you cant trade resources with those strategies, because their topdecks are more powerful than yours. Collected company and eternal witness give a lot of gas (more if you live the dream of flickerwisp + witness from company). So you can trade their powerful topdecks with your recursion and the ability to deploy more than one “threat” per turn

Eternal Witness is very good in a deck that already has Collect Company and Flickerwisp. Every turn you can spend 4 (or 5 if Thalias is around) mana to get a big ‘scry’ for silvder bullits, along with a huge tempo advantage as you can earn 2 or 1 mana of it. And with Witnes or flickerwisp you can do so again.

In fact Colected Company into flickerwisp I would say is better then just casting the 4 mana flash angel.

I’ve tested BW some and it is very good against control and combo but it struggles against the fair decks that GW is good against. I think the real distinction between builds comes down to metagaming and positioning rather than an absolute advantage.

I never thought of Dust Elemental. In the right build I could see him being a house, but it seems a little awkward in the grindy matchups when you struggle to build a board state until late. Worth pursuing though.

Inspector can attack. That’s the main thing. If you’re playing Wall you’re playing a slow deck that wins with big threats and that’s not where my version wants to be. In a midrange or agro deck you want every creature to be an attacking threat and Wall isn’t one. It’s effectively blank a lot of the time where the Inspector can at least deal a damage. Yes the Wall is a more efficient source of card advantage, but I think that’s less important than versatility.

Titan is very slow and I struggled to consistently hit six mana. I feel like he’s better when you build your deck around him and can protect him and that tends to favor slower midrange or control lists. Not that it couldn’t work, but it feels suboptimal to me.

You’re welcome and glad to be of assistance!

It’s a very interesting list! I like both Mangara and Stonecloaker, but am a little surprised at Witness, not that she’s bad but it doesn’t look like the mana can support her. My rule is that if I can only cast a card with Vial I don’t run it, but I’m curious how it’s working for you. It looks like a solid disruptive list, though I’m curious how well it works against fair decks.

My death and taxes list runs 4 collected company and im having really good results with it. As you said, thalia sometimes is a problem, but, at least to me, this deck can support company. For reference (and id like your opinion), the list

4 leonin arbiter
4 thalia, guardian of thraben
4 flickerwisp
3 eternal witness (this card is AWESOME)
2 blade splicer
2 mirran crusader
2 aven mindcensor
2 serra avenger
1 mangara of corondor
2 stonecloacker

4 path to exile
4 collected company

4 aether vial

4 razorverge thicket
6 plains
1 forest
2 mutavault
4 ghost quarter
3 tectonic edge
1 horizon canopy
1 eiganjo castle

I’ve seen a lot of people try to make Mardu work, and while they’ve had some success it never seems to last more than a week. I think the answer to your question is opportunity cost. Mardu suffers from the fact that it doesn’t have the raw power that blue and green possess, and that means that it is always going to be weaker than GBx or RUx. Tarmogoyf and Snapcaster Mage are incredibly powerful cards that you are denying yourself by choosing to play WRB and it’s had to deny that if you want to use any part of the Mardu deck it would be better paired with blue or green to take advantage of the power of those cards. The power cards of WR are best paired with U in Jeskai, BR can go with both U and G and will gain a lot of power, etc. The problem is that while white has excellent sideboard cards it doesn’t have the raw maindeck power compared to other colors. Junk exists mostly thanks to Siege Rhino and Jeskai is effectively splashing for Celestial Colonnade, Path, and Lightning Helix. Maybe if white were more powerful then Mardu would be good, but as is it’s just less powerful than the other options.

I agree with your first paragraph, DnT is much better in degenerate formats and it does have the tools to beat any deck, though not every deck all the time. The problem I’ve noticed, and the logic behind the statement that you’ve taken issue with is that my list can safely grind with the actually fair decks if you plan to do so, but it cannot also race and disrupt combo decks. I think it’s a choice of what you’re willing to be vulnerable to. In your Scapeshift example, deciding to beat the combo makes you much weaker to the fair plan, while beating the fair plan will leave you more vulnerable to the combo (in Scapeshift’s case you can solve that to an extent with Aven Mindcensor, but if they resolve a Titan you’re still in huge trouble). Hatebears is and has always been the better deck for a fair format and is probably the better place to be right now, but shifts and positioning will make the other variants better depending on the tournament.

In my somewhat extensive experience of playing D&T and Hatebear variants, I think this statement is very, very far from being true. While there’s definitely something to be said about the how the different variants of the deck fare against the metagame, as a whole, the more “unfair” the format is, the better Death & Taxes is. The deck has access to a wide array of very specific hate/hoser cards that, in addition to the built-in mana denial package, give it a very easy time against the unfairest decks in the format, particularly combo. The same is true for tempo decks, which are so reliant on mana-efficient plays and often have greedy mana bases.

On the other hand, in my experience, midrange has always given the deck a much harder time. It struggles with bigger, bulkier creatures like Goyfs, Anglers, Titans, etc. G/B/x decks can take away important pieces (like Vial) with hand disruption before we can assemble our board, and it’s vulnerable to Anger of the Gods, Pyroclasm, Wrath, etc. A particularly good example is Scapeshift – D&T has a very easy time disrupting and shutting down their combo gameplan, but their midrange gameplan gives us a much harder time – just beating down with Obstinate Baloth, Primeval Titan, Inferno Titan, etc.

My personal opinion is that G/W Hatebears is where you want to look, but for a multitude of reasons D&T tends to have more player appeal.

I haven’t tried it, but it isn’t that different from Ghostway and that card has never seen any play so I doubt it. Maybe in a more dedicated Flickering deck, but those don’t usually work out.

My particular build is bad against combo and tempo, but if you change the deck you can easily beat both. I just don’t think you can expect to beat all of them with one list.

Teeg is very good and if I was playing Hatebears then he’d definitely make an appearance at least out of the board. The format would have to be really warped for me to maindeck him though.

Well, current Hatebears lists don’t run it. Whether or not this is correct I’m not sure, but there’s no reason that it couldn’t work as a value card. I think the issue is the anti-synergy with Thalia and the utility lands.

I also find it ironic that Death and Taxes is not good gainst combo and tempo? I thought that was what the deck would beat with all the hate, and it would die to fair beatdown decks. I am supriced this is not so.

If you are up against Coco lists I would asume Gaddong Teeg would be good in the sideboard. He is also fine vs scapeshift, and UW control, is he not?

If the deck needs to build more towards a midrange deck, perhaps it could join the Coco train and play Collected Companies? It would seem like a good response to almost anything your oponent does.

He’s a mainstay of my Legacy deck for that reason. I played him back during Treasure Cruise Modern and I’ve thought about him a lot but the problem is that he’s so bad against everything else that you really can’t play him in the maindeck and sideboard space is really tight. If Vision decks get more popular then he’s definitely playable but I don’t think we’ve reached that point yet.

I never considered that card. Definitely worth a try. I probably should have picked up on it when it started seeing Legacy play. The only problem I see is that Wrath sees little play compared to Supreme Verdict.