Comments on: Bracing for Bedlam Monkey Grow https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Wed, 17 Aug 2016 03:51:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: Michael Palmer https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126362 Wed, 17 Aug 2016 03:51:13 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126362 So, why do we keep seeing this brew? I thought this site only wanted to focus on teir 1?
I personally love brews. But in the past wasn’t this shunned?

Serious question.

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By: Shane Beaver https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126361 Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:19:15 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126361 Very excited to see how the deck performs for you. I’ve always enjoyed playing RUG and always look forward to reading articles on it.

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By: Shane Beaver https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126360 Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:14:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126360 In reply to Nicholas D..

Having counters in your main helps. I think the Dredge game plan is just cry, could be wrong tho.

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By: Carlosusis https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126359 Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:57:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126359 Do you think that countercat will make a comeback with bedlam rev joining the party?

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By: tjd2191 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126358 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 23:09:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126358 In reply to Matthias Ka.

Your answer to number 1 and 3 is the same. You sometimes just traverse for a basic land in the early game to make sure you hit your land drops and you have basics for blood moon. Traverse solves both your blood moon issue and its extra copies of Bedlam Reveler.

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By: Matthias Ka https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126357 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:26:13 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126357 1. Is the 7 side board cards (4 Traverse, 3 Reveler) not a bit overkill? My current board has 4 Reveler instead. How often do you Traverse for anything else than Reveler?

2. How do you beat the, imho, horrible Dredge matchup?

3. have you thought about Spreading Seas instead of Blood Moon? I have trouble getting to 3 Mana quickly while also casting spells and getting basics with 17 land.

My main ist nearly the same as yours but my Side is:
4 Bedlam Reveler
1 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Natural State
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Spreading Seas
2 Anger of the Gods

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By: Chris Striker https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126356 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:49:03 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126356 Can’t wait to hear how the PPTQ goes for you Jordan. I’m looking forward to the success of Temur Delver in Modern 😀

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By: Matt Abraham https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126355 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:07:11 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126355 How often do you recommend boarding out Disrupting Shoals? Could be awkward when boarding in the Traverse package

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126354 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 01:25:55 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126354 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

Yeah, I hate Denial post-board against Jund. Our only reliable ferocious guy is Tarmogoyf, which they can still Decay through the Denial. Bedlam turns on ferocious, but if we draw those cards in the wrong order—say, Denial then Bedlam—the counterspell is wasted. With Shoal, we can wait for Jund to do something (they frequently start the game with an empty board against us), counter it, and then draw three. Better to exchange resources reliably against this deck when possible since we have a way to pull ahead on cards and they don’t. Shoal is more reliable at that than Denial.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126353 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 01:24:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126353 In reply to Tim Estes.

It’s really my pleasure 😛

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126352 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 01:23:46 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126352 In reply to Matt Abraham.

Honestly nothing feels that bad yet. When I lose, it’s to random hoser cards. Hopefully the PPTQ tomorrow will give me some more insight.

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By: Nicholas D. https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126351 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 00:12:48 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126351 Do you see Dredge, and the accompanying rise in rest in peace, as a problem? How do you fix this? And also, what do you believe the Dredge matchup to be anyway?

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By: Matt Abraham https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126350 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 22:20:11 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126350 I was literally talking about this deck with friends last night so I’m taking the timing of this article’s publishing as a sign haha. Already fired it up online and 2-0’d Jund and Affinity. What other match ups would you view as bad and how would you board for them?

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126349 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:40:48 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126349 In reply to Roland F. Rivera Santiago.

I should clarify – when asking which counterspell to side out, I’m referring to the Jund matchup.

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By: Tim Estes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126348 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 18:31:53 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126348 Woohoo!! This article was awesome. Thanks for all the effort you put into this archetype Jordan!

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By: Roland F. Rivera Santiago https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/bedlam-monkey-grow/#comment-2126347 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:22:40 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10990#comment-2126347 Nice article, Jordan. Coming off the sideboard as a way to combat that pesky Jund matchup is the destiny that I initially envisioned for Bedlam Reveler, and it’s pretty cool to see that your hard work and testing have pointed you in the same direction. The weakness to graveyard to hate is a bit of a concern, but only if the deck is also able to shoot your Delvers out of the sky and you don’t draw/side in the enchantment hate – I feel that few decks fulfill all of these requirements, so it’s very unlikely the deck will ever be hated out.

One question, though – is Stubborn Denial truly the counterspell to part with over Disrupting Shoal? I would have thought the card disadvantage would have been a bit more damaging to your hopes, especially with most Jund pilots’ tendency to try and jam the T3 Kommand or Liliana, which you can answer very satisfactorily even without Ferocious.

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