Comments on: Deck of the Week: Norin Soul Sisters https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:36:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jason Schousboe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126308 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:36:06 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126308 In reply to Ian Robertson.

Don’t worry, we hear you loud and clear. This is partly an issue of finding more authors with a more spikey bent, which is something we’re working on. As for the Deck of the Week feature itself, it was largely conceived as an exploration of the lower- and non-tiered strategies. But we’re definitely looking towards more strategy-oriented content as well.

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By: Joaquín Ossandon Busch https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126307 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:01:24 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126307 Hi 🙂
Thanks for the article, I feel honored. About what you wrote, the deck changes the MU a lot from monocolored SS. This deck is worse against burn and SS; but much better against control (it’s actually the best MU). They share the bad MU against tron and combo (although Blood Moon helps a lot here).

I just wanted to put some insight about the tournament. It had about 185 players (so, 8 rounds). My game were as follows:

R1: vs Merfolk // W 2-0 // The matchup looks worse on my mind than in real magic. I think is about 50/50.

R2: vs AdNauseam // W 2-0 // One if the weirds things of the deck is how you initial hand defines the kind of game that is going to be played. I got aggro hands both games, and that was enough to win against phyrexian unlife.

R3: vs Nahiri Control // W 2-0 // The deck had an absurdly good game 1 against UWR Control. Although Nahiri mades it tougher; the matchup is still about 75% on my favor, specially on game 1. For example, in G1 my opponent resolved 2 Ancestral, clean the table a few times, and then conceeded against Norin-Genesis.

R4: vs RG Valakut // W 2-1 // I don’t think I have a good MU here, but blood moon helps a lot.

R5: vs Dredge // L 1-2 // I really felt there was no way I could win without the cage. The game I won he mulled to 3 or something.

R6: vs BW Tokens // W 2-0 // Complicated MU, as Zealous Persecution can be a blowout. I win G2 with an opponent that had 5 3/3 Spirits and 2 3/3 soldiers. Purphoros worked great as a can opener here.

R7: vs Nahiri Control // W 2-0 // Same as before, but with an opponent that played poorly.

R8: vs Suicide Zoo // D 1-1 // The game was weird, because my mind was in the “can I ID to get to top 8” universe and far from the game. My hands were in the worse part of variance, so I think the MU is not great, but also not really bad.

QF: vs Affintty // L 0-2 // I hadn’t tested the MU enough, so my gameplan was quite clunky. On game 2, I didn’t mull a good (but not great) hand with no stony. I think that was a mistake.

My perception of the deck overall is that is better than most people think; but not enough to be Tier 1. It’s still good in a a creature/control enviroment.

Cheers
Joaquín

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By: Bartjan Cazander https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126306 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 15:53:21 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126306 In reply to Patrick Ward.

Here are some videos of a soul sisters build with thalia’s lieutenant: http://www.gatheringmagic.com/kevincrimin-06102016-rogues-alley-modern-norin-sisters/

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By: Kyle Wright https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126305 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 09:49:50 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126305 In reply to Darcy Hartwick.

Might as well play 3-4 nahiri+1 emrakul cutting 2 purphuros, 1 loyalist and 1 ranger. Its not like they will be getting through anytime soon, and bolt doesnt deal with nahiri well.

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By: Darcy Hartwick https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126304 Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:19:52 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126304 The triggers in this deck are pretty painful to keep track of – flicker norin, gain a life, counter on pridemate, myr token, gain a life, counter on pridemate etc.

Recent interesting norin tech is zurs weirding. If you can gain two life each turn you can lock your oponent from drawing cards. Solves one of the decks major issues which is not being able to win the game very quickly (and thus falling prey to combos). Terrible if you’re behind though.

Id think nahiri makes purphoros less good than it used to be. Might as well play impact tremors and save some tempo.

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By: Ian Robertson https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126303 Mon, 08 Aug 2016 19:49:11 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126303 I find content on the site to be a bit strange as of late:

http://quietspeculation.com/changes-at-modern-nexus/

One of the original editors left as the site was supposed to transition away from brews and more to “spike” content. Looking at the front page it looks as if its nothing but highlights of rogue modern decks and brews. Is there any explanation for future directions of the website regarding the kind of content we can expect?

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By: Craig Cliburn https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126302 Mon, 08 Aug 2016 18:52:14 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126302 In reply to Patrick Ward.

There is no consensus “best” soul sisters list, so its better to think of the decks in the archtype as existing on a spectrum.

You can fiddle with the numbers to push the list less or more into different token engines (Genesis chamber/norin here, Spectral and/or Lingering souls in others), you can push it towards grindy value creatures like hawk or ranger, or you can emphasize the attack step with Champion (and now Thalia’s Lieutenant)

So yes, you totally make a humans centric list.

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By: Patrick Ward https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/norin-soul-sisters/#comment-2126301 Mon, 08 Aug 2016 17:14:35 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10878#comment-2126301 You mentioned the human tribal synergy in the deck with champion of the parish and that got me thinking. Could Thalia’s Lieutenant work in this deck? It’s like extra copies of champion that also randomly pump up sisters. I guess it might just be worse than ajani’s pridemate but it could be worth consideration.

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