Comments on: Perfecting the Formula: Improving UW Spell Queller Blink https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:14:41 +0000 hourly 1 By: robinrocks https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126346 Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:14:41 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126346 I made a similar deck a week ago that’s more death and taxes based, feel free to look thru it. Had good results with it so far.
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Leonin Arbiter
3 Selfless Spirit
1 Spellskite

3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
4 Flickerwisp
1 Reflector Mage
4 Spell Queller
2 Vendillion Clique

2 Restoration Angel
1 Venser, Shaper Savant

4 AEther Vial
4 Path to Exile

2 Plains
1 Island
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Flooded Strand
4 Seachrome Coast
1 Mystic Gate
2 Tectonic Edge
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Celestial Colonnade

SB
1 Grafdiggers Cage
1 Spellskite
2 Detention Sphere
2 Meddling Mage
2 Rest in Peace
1 Ghostly Prison
2 Kor Firewalker
2 Hurkyll’s Recall
2 Surgical Extraction

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By: Sam Gegg https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126345 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:44:34 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126345 Great to see more work on the deck! Personally I’ve been trying to explore the black splash, borrowing elements from Eldrazi and Taxes; processing a Quelled spell w/ Wasteland Strangler seems too sweet not to try.

Couple questions on your choices, a.k.a. “have you tried X”:
Ancestral Vision seems like an odd choice for this deck; I’m guessing it’s for grindy matchups against removal-heavy decks? It might be too cute, but I’d be curious how Ephara plays in that slot, or maybe a Mulldrifter for extra blinking shenanigans.
As Ricardo noted, Worship plays poorly against Shaman of the Pack, as well as having weaknesses to Merfolk’s Vapor Snag and Affinity’s Inkmoths. Any consideration for Ghostly Prison or Windborn Muse vs. the swarm decks?
Glen Elendra Archmage seems sweet in this shell, though it could be too slow vs. Tron to take Negate’s spot. Could it find a place here, or would you rather stick to blinking Snapcaster for late game counterspells?

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126344 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:56:51 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126344 In reply to Rik Dean.

I do like Seachrome Coast, I think I’ll be trying out three instead of the Glacial Fortress and one Hallowed Fountain. Thanks for the suggestion!

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126343 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:53:25 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126343 In reply to Ricardo da Silva.

Shaman of the Pack and multiple ways to get it definitely changes the Worship plan. I was close to cutting the Verdict for another Worship, but this is making me want to keep the Verdict now. Thanks for catching this!

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By: Trevor Holmes https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126342 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:52:36 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126342 In reply to Nat Crosman.

Nice catch, so Temple UU. Still terrifying 🙂

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By: Taylor Goodland https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126341 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:59:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126341 How do you feel about the non-BO of Path to Exile and Mana Leak? Since your deck is very tempo oriented, would it be better to play “Spell Snare,” “Remand”, or even the new “Unsubstantiate”? in it’s place?

Also, while your deck is winning in a different way, have you seen Caleb Durwood’s take on Spell Queller in Bant Spirits (on CFB a few days ago)? He also 5-0ed a competitive league going more on the hexproof, disruptive tribal plan, but it was the best use of spell queller I’ve seen in action.

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By: CryptoSC https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126340 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:37:08 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126340 love reading about that deck, will have to give it a go sometime ^^

just one thing:
“Jund has grown in popularity in response to the increase in play of (…) Jeskai Nahiri”
that should be the other way around, jund is probably one of thebest matchups for jeskai nahiri at the moment and a major draw to that deck, unless i am missunderstanding that part, not that it would detract from the article in general : )

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By: Nat Crosman https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126339 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 00:19:39 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126339 In reply to Jason Schousboe.

Good point, missed that. Whoops!

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By: Rik Dean https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126338 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:19:31 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126338 Having played the spiritually similar white-blue D&T once upon a time, I recommend at least trying out Seachrome Coast as it fits nicely with your low-to-the-ground costs and requisite speed. Also, as an early adopter of the Eldrazi in that style of deck, I’ve found the Pain Lands tend to do more lifting than the Filter Lands overall, but YMMV.

I like your counter suite, but if you find yourself looking for creature protection, you may want to look at Selfless Spirit. Decent clock plus as-needed protection is good.

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By: Ricardo da Silva https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126337 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:49:56 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126337 Worship is pretty terrible against Elves, It’s likely the deck I’ve played most against in all of modern since my main testing buddy loves the deck and wasting a whole turn casting a 4cc enchantment while tapping out is not where you want to be against a deck with 4 shaman of the pack, 4 Chord/4 CoCo to get them, and 3/4 canopy + 3/4 elvish visionary to draw into them.

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By: Jason Schousboe https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126336 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 18:08:33 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126336 In reply to Nat Crosman.

There are two Mystic Gates and three Ghost Quarters, for a total of 5 colorless sources.

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By: Nat Crosman https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126335 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:31:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126335 Also, you can’t cast Elder Deep-Fiend off a TKS and two temples, you need UU.

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By: Nat Crosman https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/08/perfecting-spell-queller-blink/#comment-2126334 Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:27:32 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=10967#comment-2126334 Seems like you’d have an awfully hard time activating Displacer with only three sources of C in the mana base, though.

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