Comments on: Burn Out: Dissecting SCG Orlando https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/ Play More, Win More, Pay Less Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:17:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Stanley Ang https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126776 Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:17:11 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126776 I would disagree on leaving out green and wild nacatl and boarding in Bedlum is a bad decision.
I have tried out 2 version of burn with and without green on board and personally feel that with the nacatl in, it help to stabilise the board early and extra 3 damage on turn 2. i have TOP 8 my local GPT and PPTQ and first SCG IQ TOP 8 with him around and did pretty okay for my First WMCQ with 5-0-4. of course the only time you board out nacatl out is when your trying get your sb burn spell and removal in as nacatl and eidolon are a few cards that is expendable in a burn deck. if you think wild natcal is a bad decision just look at GP Indianapolis winner.

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By: Jim Casale https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126775 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:52:52 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126775 In reply to Eric Schmidt.

I’m definitely considering taking a land out but I probably won’t make any updates until I own Inspiring Vantages.

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By: Jim Casale https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126774 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:52:12 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126774 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

They’re definitely not great after game 1 vs another burn deck but they are pretty straight swaps with Firewalkers. I think the game 1 advantage against most decks is worth the slot right now.

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By: Jim Casale https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126773 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:51:18 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126773 In reply to CryptoSC.

Honestly, I didn’t see a lot of the deck. The most peculiar cards were tarfire and seal of fire which I am assuming he was using to get delerium faster.

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By: Jim Casale https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126772 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:50:45 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126772 In reply to Noah Bruner.

That’s what I ended up doing because I hadn’t done enough testing without green. I’m not convinced we need it even though losing Revelry feels bad.

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By: Eric Schmidt https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126771 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 04:30:47 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126771 My take on Git Probe is that it makes your deck essentially a 56-card deck if you’re running a full playset, therefore, you wouldn’t need the stock number of lands you’d run in your 60-card deck. I personally run my Naya (Nacatl-less) Burn deck with 19 lands (and no Git Probes). If I were to run a playset of Probes, I’d definitely drop a land (or two).

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By: Taylor Goodland https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126770 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:43:02 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126770 In reply to Taylor Goodland.

With Burn you almost always need to top deck 1-2 cards to win. Reveler is a time walk with the dubious investment that you’ll actually get another turn, and probe is, well, not a burn spell

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By: Taylor Goodland https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126769 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 01:41:27 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126769 In reply to Jordan Boisvert.

I guess my take on probe is that when I win with burn, it’s usually by the skin of my teeth. Casting “air” with probe or any creature after turn 2 if tough. Burn is linear; reveler sets you up for the long game. Rather than dilute burns explosiveness, I feel it’s a deck that must go all in.

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By: Jordan Boisvert https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126768 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 00:40:19 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126768 I can see Probes in otherwise stock Burn lists working out during goldfishes, but I’d be wary of including a set when Burn is the 2nd-most represented deck in the format.

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By: CryptoSC https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126767 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:37:47 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126767 Do you have any more info you could share on your round 5 oponent?
I´ve been tinkering on a RuG Traverse Twin deck myself and your report has me very interested 😀

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By: Jacob Kellogg https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126766 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:24:40 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126766 So THAT’S what’s going on with Platinum Emperion! Wow, I was really wondering what the deal was on that.

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By: Noah Bruner https://www.quietspeculation.com/2016/09/burn-out-dissecting-scg-orlando/#comment-2126765 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:56:54 +0000 http://34.200.137.49/?p=11653#comment-2126765 Sorry to hear about your Burn record! Better luck next time. I totally agree with you on removing Green from Burn. Between the new fastlands improving manabases and the current aggression of the format, I want to be playing as few colors (and shocklands) as I possibly can. I don’t think I’d cut those sweet Destructive Revelries from my board just yet, but it’d definitely be a Green splash with no maindeck Green cards I need to watch out for.

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